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goes back to live here if not

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um i am going to

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[Music]

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yell out to rita to uh

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to get a hold of drew really quick okay

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let me reset this stuff i have to uh

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i have to do this but anyway we're live

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it's all good

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i don't know uh you know as i'm talking

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about the internet going down last night

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and then we have these issues tonight

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it's pretty strange that's pretty

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bizarre but you know what things happen

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so let's uh let's do this all right

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that's all

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all right i think we're back up and

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and that's my playback the smoke radio

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for them oh man okay so that's

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um that is

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that's strange okay because that

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is that playing live

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huh i can't keep up with technology

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that doesn't make any sense but this

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that sounded like okay that you know

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what's weird

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is that was the original video

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okay so that is this

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okay we're good we're good we're good

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we're good we're good

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twitter at

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j church radio if anything uh

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occurs later on tonight or whatever

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during the show just pop it up

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all right all right all right all right

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all right and that was just

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uh i was just out at 10 minutes i'll

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never get back of my life let's get to

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the breaking news happened today

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here in los angeles tiger woods

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was injured earlier today in a single

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vehicle rollover track traffic collision

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angeles down there off the 110 freeway

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and was in surgery all day today don't

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know if he is out of surgery

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uh the la fire department tweeted out

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solo vehicle accident hawthorne

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boulevard uh

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hawthorne boulevard and palace

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about how the accident happened he was

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country club and uh popped over

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undercarriage of the suv then hit a tree

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of the road over the median and went

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mood got in his suv somebody was

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tiger left at a high speed almost hit

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you know this is big news it's big news

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um all of the local news and we got tmz

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tmz broke the store tmz breaks every

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the perseverance percy on mars and the

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that parachute that helped nasa's uh

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land on mars last week unfurled to

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reveal a seemingly

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of the rover's landing but there was

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more to the story

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you know how the internet is well the

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the red and white pattern spelled out

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in concentric rings the saying is the

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perseverance team's motto

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mission control at nasa's jet propulsion

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laboratory otherwise known as jpl

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now an image of a kangaroo has been

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identified as australia's oldest known

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rock painting dating back

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meter long kangaroo is painted on the

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damian finch from the university of

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nest below and above the painting

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years old let's get to show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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now last night rita and i

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watched psycho gorman and if you haven't

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seen this movie yet

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you've got to watch psycho gorman it's

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perfect it's a perfect movie beginning

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the young star of the movie

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comparator to dakota fanning so we had a

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dakota fanning conversation last night

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and then today this is the universe man

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today dakota fanning is 27 years old

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best movie wore the worlds

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emily blunt today is 38. emily blunt

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looper edge of tomorrow and the

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adjustment bureau

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that's right aerosmith's brad whitford

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bradley whitford today is 74 years old

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howard jones today is 71 he had two hits

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that were toe tappers

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what is love and things can only get

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better queens right original gangster

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michael wilton the man today is 59 years

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europe guitarist the one and only john

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our dead guy's birthday today is moment

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of silence please thank you very much

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johnny winter 1944 to 2014 died at the

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age of 70.

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johnny one of the great blues guitar

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players of all time

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who brought the blues to arena level

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audiences he did johnny recorded several

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grammy-nominated blues albums

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foundation hall of fame and in 2003

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of the 100 greatest guitarists of all

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happy birthday johnny winner on the stay

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in history otd

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of the grammy awards and i

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both of those songs don't even deny it i

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i'm just saying fader fact

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on february okay here we go i do that

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every time i go fader fact okay here we

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better fact okay here we go

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on february 23rd 1885

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write that down 19 year old

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and that is your fader fact

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tonight very special guest richard bleep

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doing all the latest ufo headlines

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there's a lot to talk about tonight with

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there always is tomorrow night is

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another fader no tomorrow night oh i'm

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sorry

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tomorrow night is our ama

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tomorrow night ask me anything thursday

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long

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that's him

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claimed his innocence the whole time too

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by the way said i didn't do it i did not

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i didn't do it

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so there you go all right i like that

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picture of uh

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of richard and tracy and myself

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uh the homing version that's that that's

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a good picture

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river moon coffee i got to do this right

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river moon coffee rivermoonwellness.com

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watch her drink coffee i didn't really

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that got me on coffee right it's it's my

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dad's fault

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but down in panama they had this i i

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want somebody

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in twitter to look for this they had

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coffee down there called cafe

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i can't remember the name of it

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something go i can picture the bag

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of uh beans but but that coffee was so

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strong and i love coffee

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i'm talking about not it would make you

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shake

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but it was good and a cup of that in the

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morning

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before i went to school i was good

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all day wow you know and that's

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that's you know so for me today

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i long for that for that

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thing that i got from cafe duran

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cafe i haven't said cafe duran

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i don't even know how i remembered that

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i haven't seen cafe duran and

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you never heard me say it on the show

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tell you that right now

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so there you go cafe duran came in uh

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in these bags that were yellow

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and black i think with stripes on it

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a cafe duran came in these bags like um

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the bags were like yes okay all right

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somebody just pop that up yes that's it

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that's it but um uh

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okay okay

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i got you i got you richard i got you

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hold on

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richard you know i'm on the air you

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right

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[Laughter]

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dude is a radio host he's a professional

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he does it

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and he knows i'm live on the air i

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am now he's telling me

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now he's telling me i don't know how to

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multitask

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[Laughter]

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oh man all right okay richard

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we'll see all about that anyway that's

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cafe duran

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when i was a kid these are modern bags

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when i was a kid they were like um

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uh uh uh chocolate chips

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you know the the other uh uh

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oh richard i love you ma'am i love you

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okay

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so um where am i at i i've got a few

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minutes off i gotta

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you know what i gotta get this in

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because we're gonna be talking about

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this tonight

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we just came off this amazing weekend of

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the conscious life expo

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i want to thank everybody at the expo by

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the way i hosted the entire weekend 30

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30 hours and uh yesterday i totally face

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planted

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and slept in but here's the strange part

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about the weekend three bizarre things

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happened

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first um i mentioned to william henry

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during our interview that

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i had thrown off social media as a.i

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by only clicking on puppy videos and

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guitars right so now when i surf the net

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my social media feed is puppies kittens

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and stratocasters

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and largely this is true but for some

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strange reason this weekend

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my feed was also flooded with expensive

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homes for sale

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i'm talking about five to 20 million

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dollar homes right in that range

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i have no idea what i clicked on or what

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my search history says but the ai

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thinks i need a 15 million dollar home

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in malibu

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and i can promise you a couple of things

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one i can't afford a home like that and

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second

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i've never ever clicked on a 20 million

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dollar home for sale but

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the second strange thing that happened

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over the weekend was my news feed was

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taken over by

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new et and alien uh television programs

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and these things that are starting to

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premiere and rita and i

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um over the last few nights were

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watching tv after the expo

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and we noticed that all of the

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advertising

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about the new et and ufo programming on

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regular tv these are not documentaries

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these are scripted dramas on the

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networks

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now don't get me wrong i'm excited about

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anything ufo and alien that the networks

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have planned for us

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and i'll all be watching all of it but

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and right now right in the middle of

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resident alien on sci-fi holy crap and

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that is a great

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show but right now the nation in the

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world are about to get a huge

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dose of alien invasions in 2021

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so while all of this is going on over

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the weekend on sunday night right in the

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middle of the expo in the livestream i

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get this email from jim goodall

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says jimmy i just received this from a

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good friend this was recorded today this

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past sunday

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at 11 17 p.m uh pst

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uh american airlines a320 uh 2292. i'll

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get back to this

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in route uh to arizona so

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he left the mp3 file for me which i have

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of this pilot talking to the tower and

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it's pretty interesting so i break back

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in i'm back live

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on the expo and

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uh i listened to it all during the break

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i came back live with

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linda moulton howe and nick pope told

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them about the breaking ufo news

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now at this point nobody had heard about

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it yet

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but the story broke during the cle

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broadcast

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i had said then on sunday that this is a

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very fluid news story that i would be

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uh getting everything together and i'll

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follow up on everything we're going to

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do that tonight

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and i was pretty sure that mass media

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would reporting on it in the days and

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weeks ahead and yes all of that happened

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as well

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so just in case that you haven't

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heard the recording here it is now i'm

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going to play it for you now

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have any targets up here we just had

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something go right over the top of us

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that

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i hate to say this looked like a long

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cylindrical object it almost looked like

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a cruise missile type of thing

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moving really fast that went right over

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the top of us

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so there you go now this story broke

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over the weekend that's a pilot to tower

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this is over new mexico now i'm totally

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confident

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that we don't fly commercial airliners

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through live fire missile testing

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at least i hope we don't as of today

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we've got nothing from the faa the

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military or american airlines maybe

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richard's got a follow-up uh but

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nobody's giving an

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explanation about what the pilot saw but

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i do expect

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something soon because we know too much

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about this event

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we know the airline we know the flight

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we know the time the location

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00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:22,240
and we have a recording of the sighting

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and this community will get to the

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bottom of it

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way before we get an official statement

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that i can promise you

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so yeah it was an exciting weekend and

456
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although all three days of the expo were

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great

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the highlight for me was my conversation

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with richard dolan on saturday evening

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we managed

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once again to sit relax and just talk

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00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:44,480
we had no idea at the time that the next

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day we would have more breaking ufo news

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and we had already booked richard for

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tonight on fade to black which in a very

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strange way

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made sure that we will always have a

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fresh conversation

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and we'll never be in danger of

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repeating ourselves

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so yeah we've got that going for us

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight

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richard bleepin dolan on the game

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changer network and kg r

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a the planet i'm your host jimmy church

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and we'll be right back after this short

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break

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with richard nolan you can follow me on

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at j church radio you can follow richard

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at rich dolan on twitter i'll be right

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recommend my

568
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569
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570
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571
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572
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573
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family trusts for our preparedness plan

574
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575
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578
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579
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go to prepare with jimmy.com and get

580
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581
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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

582
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time to lose

583
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584
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585
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your father's radio show on the game

586
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587
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,559
and kgra the planet

588
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:10,559
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

589
00:25:17,710 --> 00:25:15,120
you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

590
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:17,720
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

591
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,630
welcome back fade to black i am your

592
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:40,320
host jimmy church tonight

593
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:44,080
right here richard bleep and dolan

594
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:47,440
tomorrow night our ama is going down

595
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ask me anything thursday night is

596
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:52,559
another fader night with open lines all

597
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,200
night long

598
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:55,440
oh you know what i'm going to turn on my

599
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,320
video

600
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,360
uh for uh let him get some uh

601
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:02,240
jimmy action live in the studio there

602
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:02,720
you go

603
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:05,919
maybe he'll turn on his oh i got

604
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:08,320
richard too richard one of the world's

605
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leading researchers and writers on the

606
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,840
subject of ufos

607
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,679
and he still believes that they

608
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:15,679
constitute the greatest mystery of

609
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:19,200
our time his latest book is the alien

610
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,240
agendas a speculative analysis

611
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:24,640
of those visiting earth his website

612
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:26,799
right there richarddolenpress.com

613
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,679
and uh go see everything richard and

614
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,360
there you go i'm going to go straight to

615
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:33,520
it richard how you doing man

616
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:35,360
happy to be here jimmy gee it's like i

617
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,559
haven't talked to you in a year

618
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,440
i know hey we you know what we got to

619
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:40,559
quit the delay

620
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:43,600
we just need to talk more man we do

621
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,720
we had me on quite a bit lately i just

622
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:48,000
i'm afraid your listeners are going to

623
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,279
get a little tired like oh

624
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:51,200
dolan again well see you know what

625
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:52,559
what's what's funny

626
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,840
is um we needed to bring you on

627
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,760
uh with everything that was going on a

628
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:59,279
few months ago a couple of months ago

629
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,480
but before that

630
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,880
we hadn't had you on for like three

631
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:03,919
months and

632
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,720
that yeah and that surprised both of us

633
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:07,760
and then

634
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:11,679
uh but this is the thing uh you and i

635
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:14,720
this week i kind of made up my mind this

636
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:15,840
week you and i

637
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,559
had some of the most epic conversations

638
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:20,640
on the phone that we've ever had

639
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,760
and and yeah i i i really believe that

640
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,039
but this is the thing

641
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,880
i think that's the next show you and i

642
00:27:29,930 --> 00:27:28,960
don't even go live let's just record the

643
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,940
phone

644
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:31,600
[Laughter]

645
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,120
we've had probably at least a dozen

646
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:37,200
really great phone conversations over

647
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,159
the years yes

648
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,640
quite a few long ones as long as your

649
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,159
shows you know some of them

650
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,240
there are some people out there that are

651
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:46,159
uneasy in hearing that going i wonder

652
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,840
what they were talking about

653
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:49,440
well i mean i'll just say like there

654
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,399
were times when i thought i was going to

655
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,480
throw dishes across the room and

656
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:54,240
yelling at you like what is wrong with

657
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:55,520
you church

658
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,799
but you're probably thinking the same

659
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,480
thing about me i did i thought that a

660
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,080
few times about you my man

661
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,120
and uh and and you know what and we

662
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:04,640
always hang up the phone with

663
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:07,520
man love you all right but you know you

664
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:08,799
know let's talk something it's something

665
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,279
that i

666
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:12,080
i really appreciate about you uh we've

667
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:12,399
had

668
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,279
many disagreements uh i haven't noticed

669
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:16,799
too many lately but i'm sure they're in

670
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,279
there

671
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,360
but uh we've had them and yeah we just

672
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,640
always seem to like

673
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,480
just rolls off yeah really it doesn't

674
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:24,159
bother me and that's the way it should

675
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,640
be

676
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:26,720
and you know it was it was kind of funny

677
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,679
last week we

678
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,520
almost went there a couple of times

679
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:31,840
though it got it got a little dicey

680
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,880
there a couple

681
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,679
i'll just take your word for it but

682
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:39,440
that's what's so great all right let's

683
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,559
uh let's let's do this uh

684
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,559
gotta keep the tradition going there sir

685
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,559
richard uh what was the last song you

686
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:47,919
listened to today

687
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,600
i had to look it up because i couldn't

688
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:51,200
remember the name of it it was a jazz

689
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:51,760
tune

690
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,720
oh now i don't know if i've really ever

691
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:56,399
talked to you about jazz i probably

692
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,279
love some jazz more than i love even

693
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,960
classic rock and i love rock i grew up

694
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,080
with it but

695
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,080
uh it's a jazz of like the period just

696
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:06,720
before i was born so i was born in 62.

697
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:10,960
jazz of like 1958 59 60. that's my jazz

698
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:14,159
those are my guys and gals so today i

699
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,679
was listening to john coltrane and

700
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,600
thelonious monk

701
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,600
and i couldn't remember because monk

702
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,840
writes a lot of like wackadoo titles for

703
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,760
his songs like he was a genius but his

704
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,679
song titles are a little crazy

705
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,120
so this is one of my favorites it's

706
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,360
called off miner jazz

707
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,279
fans out there you know how great this

708
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:33,679
song is if you're not a jazz fan

709
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,640
if you don't know it go find it it's

710
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:37,840
actually just

711
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:41,520
crazy brilliant coltrane's at his top

712
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:44,799
monk is great the whole band is amazing

713
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:51,909
was he to me well that whole crew though

714
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:54,960
because uh that whole

715
00:30:02,549 --> 00:29:58,960
crew ron carter you know on base

716
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:02,559
um that that whole crew was

717
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,919
phenomenal at so many levels but they

718
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,520
understood each other and they were

719
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:09,360
breaking new ground

720
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,799
uh constantly and they were staying at

721
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:14,320
everybody's level

722
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:18,240
but monk never had a bad moment

723
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:21,039
he he just didn't and and there's a

724
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:23,120
documentary it's on pbs it's in black

725
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:24,240
and white

726
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:27,760
and it's a monk in his apartment

727
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:31,039
in new york and there's a moment in this

728
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,520
film

729
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,760
and you just know you know and he was in

730
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:35,360
a bad moment they were going to kick him

731
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,320
out of his apartment

732
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:38,480
and his stuff was getting thrown on the

733
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:39,440
street and

734
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,559
classic jazz artist right right and

735
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,080
uh i think that the end of the

736
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:46,159
documentary his base that he plays

737
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:47,279
during the documentary

738
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:49,760
inside the apartment is on like monk

739
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,880
played bass

740
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,480
well he had everything that's what i'm

741
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:54,399
saying in his apartment

742
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:57,279
amazing the best the best but in his

743
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,720
apartment he had this upright base right

744
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,720
into the documentary the base is on the

745
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:04,720
sidewalk in new york

746
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,519
it's like man you can't do that to monk

747
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:09,200
anyway i'd like to i'd like to find that

748
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,640
you've got to watch this book as great

749
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,960
as monk was my favorite jazz piano

750
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,720
player has to be bill evans

751
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:17,039
i give evans the nod by a little bit

752
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,760
although

753
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:19,840
i've spent years and years just tripping

754
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,200
out on felonious monks so

755
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,559
he's amazing what about mccoy tyner he's

756
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:26,880
that's coltrane's piano player very good

757
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:27,919
yep yep yeah

758
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,559
yeah he's all of those guys uh there

759
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,240
were quite a few of them who were just

760
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,200
top of the line a plus plus plus level

761
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,360
so they're all great for me i just i

762
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,720
there's something about evans that i

763
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:40,159
just love i feel like if frederick

764
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:40,880
chopin

765
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:43,360
had reincarnated in the ninth you know

766
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,559
in the 20th century he would have been

767
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:46,240
bill evans i just think like there's

768
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:46,960
this

769
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,000
sensibility and evans was uh

770
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,399
kind of created the jazz style for piano

771
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:54,320
that everyone copied after him

772
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,159
he was a little more influential but no

773
00:32:02,230 --> 00:31:58,159
mccoy tyner was amazing

774
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:02,240
um well i'll tell you something

775
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:06,159
uh when each one of those cats

776
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:09,600
could sit at the same piano and make it

777
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,120
sound different like them i i i

778
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:14,640
i you know and it's not that there's

779
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,519
only one monk that's it there's only one

780
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,600
no one else can make that sound and bill

781
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:20,640
evans got that

782
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,039
that soft you remember it's all the same

783
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:27,600
key the same hammer hitting the same

784
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:28,720
strings

785
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,399
so you would think that i hitting a note

786
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:34,399
or you hitting a note on that piano or

787
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:36,559
bill evans or mccoy tyner hitting a note

788
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:37,360
on the piano

789
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:40,880
it's gonna ding ding no

790
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,350
people don't realize just how amazing

791
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:49,360
american jazz is like what

792
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:52,480
what an incredible gift like this

793
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,840
you know all periods of jazz are just

794
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,880
wonderful uh

795
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,960
my favorite is probably that period of

796
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,720
the late 50s but they're all amazing i

797
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:02,399
mean charlie parker 10 years early was

798
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,360
incredible

799
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:06,240
but what an unbelievable outpouring

800
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:09,120
outflow of genius

801
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,240
like i don't i just think that yeah we

802
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,919
know like americans made jazz and we

803
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:15,120
know it's kind of cool but i don't

804
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:16,720
really think people

805
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,840
recognize just how profound that genre

806
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,120
of music was and how

807
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:23,039
utterly inventive it was for every

808
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,360
single decade right up through really

809
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:27,360
you could say through the 70s yes and it

810
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,399
got tired out

811
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:31,440
i started retreading itself but from

812
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,919
you know world war one through the

813
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,480
twenties

814
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:36,000
lewis armstrong really inventing the

815
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:43,830
and then parker who was like america's

816
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,840
mozart in a lot of ways and

817
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,360
don't forget lester young and billie

818
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,360
holiday and ella and

819
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,960
june christie who i just adored and

820
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,320
she's kind of forgotten but so many

821
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:53,679
great singers someone

822
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:56,720
sinatra like whoa

823
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,600
every single decade there's this

824
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,279
tremendous innovation that was just

825
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,919
happening it's it's exciting to follow

826
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,840
all these years later there was this

827
00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:07,679
scene going back to monk really quick in

828
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:09,679
that documentary you've got to watch it

829
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,040
so monk he's been up for like three days

830
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,720
and you can tell

831
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,399
in the documentary he's wearing the same

832
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,800
shirt and pants right after three days

833
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,679
and and he takes out a shotgun and

834
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,240
starts popping off shots man

835
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:26,639
in his living room yeah man new york

836
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,240
city in new york city

837
00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,960
and uh it's just wow wow an incredible

838
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:32,159
documentary

839
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,159
um but this cannot be done there is

840
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:39,440
monk was just too much man uh but there

841
00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,079
was

842
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,119
when you go back and and look at

843
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:45,520
uh the tv shows and they're black and

844
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:46,480
white and you watch them they're

845
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:49,919
you know you can watch the respect

846
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:53,040
that they had for each other the way

847
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,679
that they

848
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,720
spoke to each other the res just this

849
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,760
this um decorum

850
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:02,000
right this this thing that they had of

851
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,000
cool i'm so glad you mentioned this on

852
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,920
on youtube people can watch there's a

853
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:08,240
a tv thing that miles and coltrane did

854
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,599
when um

855
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,280
evans wasn't in the band unfortunately

856
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:12,960
but i forget who the replacement was

857
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,480
anyway so they're on this

858
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,960
tv special you're nodding oh that's uh i

859
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:18,480
i think that might be herbie

860
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:22,320
hancock at 18

861
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,000
19 would not have been not in 1950

862
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:30,000
oh eight this was okay okay but but um i

863
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:31,359
forget who it was anyway

864
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,480
it's amazing and there's an announcer

865
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,000
who's introducing them and

866
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,079
it's not even respect it's reverence

867
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:39,920
that he has to introduce him

868
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,240
and it's so cool you see them like doing

869
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,240
their thing live on stage and then miles

870
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:45,599
is done he takes a break he's having a

871
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:46,400
cigarette

872
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:47,760
talking to someone in the back well to

873
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:49,839
coal trains doing his solo i think

874
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:51,599
cannibal laterally was in the band like

875
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:52,480
all of these

876
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:55,599
legends but it's like that was on

877
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,880
american and it's on youtube

878
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,880
yes and it's like the coolest thing to

879
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,160
watch yeah there's this

880
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:05,119
uh there's so many takes of that uh out

881
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,520
there

882
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,839
everybody needs to go watch it uh what

883
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:09,680
richard's talking about there are some

884
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:12,000
scenes the cameras always followed

885
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:13,520
everybody around

886
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:16,800
so you're watching the backs of

887
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:19,520
everybody out notes coltrane and

888
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:21,920
and ron carter and they're tearing it up

889
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:22,720
right

890
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,760
and and there's uh miles leaning against

891
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:27,440
the back wall

892
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,720
having a conversation and and watching

893
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:33,119
what is going on in front of them and it

894
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:36,160
is incredible it's just yeah it's it's

895
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,200
mind-blowing

896
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:39,440
and it was on american tv in the late

897
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,079
50s people don't realize like how cool

898
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,640
so much stuff on american tv was and

899
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,000
that's just one of those moments

900
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,320
there was a lot of scotch and tumblers

901
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,400
and cigarettes

902
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:52,720
it was awesome that was jazz culture and

903
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,079
it was

904
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,839
there we go now who knew that we would

905
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,079
talk jazz oh

906
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,960
okay so there was a thing let's stay on

907
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,800
this for a second

908
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,960
yes there was that thing that was going

909
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,320
on um

910
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,320
with miles and everybody else and

911
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,079
atlantic records and

912
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:11,839
and things and what was going on in new

913
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,520
york city there was a

914
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,400
jazz scene out here in l.a but it was

915
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:17,599
racial divide

916
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:21,520
it was a lot of crazy stuff going on

917
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:24,079
culturally across the united states and

918
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:25,760
as they were getting this

919
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:29,040
going it stopped

920
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,640
and they everybody went to paris

921
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:34,960
right everybody went over to europe

922
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:37,359
where it seemed that the appreciation

923
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:38,320
for this

924
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,440
without the considerations of race

925
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:43,520
right where these these guys could go to

926
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,680
paris and do their own thing

927
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,520
without the pressure of the united

928
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:49,680
states and it to me

929
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:52,320
we wouldn't have gotten the the the

930
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:53,359
growth

931
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,160
the explosiveness of the jazz scene if

932
00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:58,320
it wasn't for paris and spain

933
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,400
and germany and including london as well

934
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,240
yes an interesting point i i guess i

935
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:06,560
would uh partially agree with you

936
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:10,079
i mean i think the um uh white and black

937
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:10,720
americans

938
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,400
had a great appreciation for american

939
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,760
jazz and that includes the black

940
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,440
musicians i mean miles davis was the

941
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,280
highest paige as

942
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:19,520
performer white or black for many years

943
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,200
in the late 50s like he

944
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,160
he was it he got the most money um but

945
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,320
yes obviously there was a lot of

946
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,119
i mean deep racism in the united states

947
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,200
and it's true like france especially of

948
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,119
all the european countries

949
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,960
uh there were others but france really

950
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,560
was a great home

951
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,720
to a lot of these american jazz artists

952
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,079
and and france

953
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:43,040
did like love them love them really show

954
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:43,760
them love

955
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,280
so miles comes back from paris and this

956
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:49,599
is in the 60s he comes back from paris

957
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,119
after being over there for

958
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:54,160
years uh he did sketches of spain over

959
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:54,560
there

960
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,839
and one of the greatest records in in

961
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,480
history jazz or otherwise so he comes

962
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,240
back to new york city and i forget the

963
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,839
club he's playing at it might have been

964
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:04,800
the blue note

965
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:07,760
he's playing in new york city does a set

966
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:08,240
goes

967
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,440
out front to smoke a cigarette between

968
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,640
sets and uh

969
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:17,520
a cop on the beat walks up to him couple

970
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,240
of them

971
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,480
he's like you can't be out here smoking

972
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:21,440
a cigarette

973
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,040
on the street he's blind right right

974
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,000
and he goes dude that's i'm taking a

975
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,599
break that's me right there he points up

976
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:31,599
at the marquee miles davis

977
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:35,119
right that's me and the cop

978
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:38,160
hits him with his billy club cuts his

979
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:39,119
head open

980
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:43,520
knocks him out then arrests him

981
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:46,160
takes him to the precinct he's got shows

982
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,359
to do

983
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:49,680
and he had to get bailed out of jail he

984
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:50,880
comes out of

985
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:53,839
uh the precinct with his head bandaged

986
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:54,079
up

987
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,680
it was just and it was like welcome back

988
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,960
to the united states you know

989
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,640
never knew that story yeah yeah

990
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:04,240
incredible and he made a bunch of

991
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:05,839
statements he said man look

992
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,839
you know this is this is my country this

993
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:09,760
is why i was in paris

994
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:11,359
you know and i come back to new york

995
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,839
city and i'm headlining the blue note

996
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,920
and we've got racism i can't even smoke

997
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,119
a cigarette

998
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,760
uh on the streets of new york we really

999
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,040
you know we

1000
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:23,920
often it's you know it's 60 years ago

1001
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,480
now we

1002
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,640
and it's i don't want to say it's easy

1003
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,640
to forget but i think we

1004
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,880
we often don't appreciate just how

1005
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,560
intense

1006
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:34,960
that racism really was in that era it

1007
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:35,920
was

1008
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,560
know it's like

1009
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,520
and uh there was just so much hardcore

1010
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:45,359
resistance

1011
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:47,680
among the old the old way of thinking

1012
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:54,550
the kids today and i understand

1013
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:58,079
uh what's going on culturally i do um

1014
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:02,240
but what they don't know

1015
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:05,680
is that i i'm 57.

1016
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,800
so now i didn't i didn't

1017
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:10,720
live through the 50s but i certainly

1018
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,440
lived through the 60s and the 70s

1019
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:15,760
and and i know what we went through in

1020
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:17,839
this country i went through the busing i

1021
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:21,359
went through the desegregation

1022
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:24,240
and and so did you and what that what

1023
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:24,560
that

1024
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:28,000
did for this country uh as far as uh the

1025
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,720
pressure

1026
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,880
and and the racism and the issues that

1027
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:32,400
were fully on the table

1028
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,920
those were intense intense moment

1029
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:38,160
uh moments in this country's history and

1030
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:39,599
it's recent

1031
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:42,880
this isn't like a sepia tone

1032
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,400
uh photograph from 1890 this is

1033
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,640
my life right this is what i went

1034
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,839
through yeah

1035
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,440
there's orders of magnitude beyond

1036
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:53,359
anything that we can recognize today

1037
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,800
though

1038
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:56,480
yeah you know what they had to deal with

1039
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,720
yeah absolutely absolutely how do we go

1040
00:42:07,190 --> 00:41:59,280
there

1041
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:08,309
i didn't know you were into all that

1042
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,640
stuff oh man i i was raised on it my

1043
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,160
dad's a jazz musician

1044
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,440
mine too yeah yeah and and so for me

1045
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,920
you know it's funny when you hear uh my

1046
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:20,000
parents were musicians no my dad really

1047
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:20,480
was

1048
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,480
raised literally i mean that's all i

1049
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:33,920
listened to was

1050
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:37,760
was blue note and and and jazz growing

1051
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,160
up

1052
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:39,839
all the way through you know of course

1053
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:41,359
the 70s uh you know

1054
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,319
maynard ferguson and and and all of the

1055
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,720
modern versions of jazz that uh

1056
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,240
ended up playing out too as well but

1057
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,920
yeah i went through all of that

1058
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,839
oh yeah yeah i kind of did too it was

1059
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,240
very very funny my dad was a

1060
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,000
we really should get into ufos i guess

1061
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,920
but my dad was really into herbie mann

1062
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:59,359
like who who the hell knows who herbie

1063
00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:00,079
man was

1064
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,520
he was a jazz flutist before there was

1065
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,520
ron burgundy there was the real deal

1066
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,760
with herbie mann and i there was an

1067
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:07,359
album called live at newport i just grew

1068
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,880
up hearing it over and over again

1069
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,560
but there was a lot of other jazz my dad

1070
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,079
wasn't a musician he was a cop

1071
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:15,119
but he did love jazz he had a lot of

1072
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,640
jazz albums and i just

1073
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,160
i just absorbed it i think and then in

1074
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:20,319
my 20s i just got into it

1075
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:23,760
man herbie man as far as if you want

1076
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:27,839
definitions of cool right i mean of cool

1077
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:31,440
yeah baby herbie man's way up on that

1078
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:35,040
way totally well way up off of it man

1079
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:35,760
that was a cool

1080
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,470
a lot of people uh were really looking

1081
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,240
forward to that conversation and it was

1082
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:01,920
a great conversation but what we

1083
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,200
didn't know richard was

1084
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:08,400
that the next day sunday we were going

1085
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,359
to have this

1086
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,440
this this this breaking story that

1087
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:12,800
potentially yes

1088
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:15,920
is going to be huge the ufo

1089
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,880
world just never stops does it it just

1090
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,319
doesn't stop

1091
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:22,160
well the reason is that the you know no

1092
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:23,839
matter how many times people want to say

1093
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,440
that there's nothing going on

1094
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,440
whoever is operating these craft never

1095
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:28,800
get the so there's

1096
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,599
constantly new and amazing and

1097
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:32,960
inexplicable

1098
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,560
sightings and and this one we're about

1099
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,839
to mention this is just from february

1100
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,000
21st just two days ago

1101
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,400
over northeastern new mexico is american

1102
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:42,160
airlines flight what is it two two nine

1103
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,480
two

1104
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,880
yep i've got the article here as a

1105
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:46,400
commercial airliner and a

1106
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:49,839
long cylindrical object that almost

1107
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:51,200
looked like a cruise missile this is in

1108
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:51,920
the words of the

1109
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,720
of the crew moving very fast over the

1110
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:56,160
top of the aircraft

1111
00:45:02,230 --> 00:44:59,599
zooming by there were 36 thousand feet

1112
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:02,240
did you logically did you listen to uh

1113
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:03,200
the recording

1114
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,400
yeah it was amazing oh you know and

1115
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,800
what's your takeaway uh we'll discuss

1116
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,480
this when we come back

1117
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:13,040
but what's your takeaway about what the

1118
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:13,680
pilot

1119
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,880
said and didn't say

1120
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:18,400
right because let's come back to that

1121
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,240
after the break yeah i thought it was

1122
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,280
i thought it was powerful i thought the

1123
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:26,000
event was i mean the thing is it

1124
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:27,200
reminded me of

1125
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:31,440
the tic tac ufo in a lot of ways

1126
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:35,440
in that it was an object that had no

1127
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,760
like there was nothing i mean other than

1128
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:39,119
jet propulsion

1129
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,680
that is the only uh propulsive

1130
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:43,440
explanation

1131
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,079
i mean in terms of look every time a

1132
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:48,160
pilot talks about this

1133
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:52,560
no one wants to say i think i saw a ufo

1134
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:56,160
so like they all know you don't want to

1135
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,880
just say

1136
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,400
uh something's out there that's not

1137
00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:00,319
supposed to exist people do we have

1138
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:00,880
anything

1139
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:03,520
out there are there any aliens in the

1140
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,319
area

1141
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,720
right yeah they're not ever going to say

1142
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,760
that no

1143
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,000
hyla's not going to say that and it's

1144
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,960
always the same thing it's like

1145
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,359
uh do we have any traffic military

1146
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,920
traffic that's you know scheduled like

1147
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,760
what else is he supposed to say this

1148
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,280
thing zooms behind

1149
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:23,920
over him at 36 000 feet at some

1150
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,560
ridiculous speed apparently

1151
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,760
uh so yeah i mean they all the pilots

1152
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,040
know because in in

1153
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,079
earlier in an earlier era you would you

1154
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,920
would actually be taken off

1155
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,000
your flight job and you'd be given a

1156
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,400
desk job immediately

1157
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,200
so so they all they all get that memo

1158
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:45,040
and they all know

1159
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:47,839
uh okay we're gonna keep our it's like

1160
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,599
what police officers do like any

1161
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:52,400
any of these uh people in public service

1162
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:53,359
when they

1163
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,520
ufo

1164
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,040
you'll never hear cops do this either

1165
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,520
like they're very very meticulous

1166
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,880
and they're very low key about how they

1167
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,040
describe this and they don't infer

1168
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:07,760
almost ever and pilots are exactly the

1169
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:08,560
same way

1170
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,240
who reminds me it reminds me of uh

1171
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:14,079
the beginning of close encounters of the

1172
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,520
third kind

1173
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,280
when uh the flight controller in the

1174
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:18,640
tower says okay

1175
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:22,559
uh do you want to report a ufo

1176
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:25,680
and there's this silence uh

1177
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,349
i'm not even answering the question man

1178
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,359
let's not and say we did yeah that's not

1179
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:36,480
to say we did

1180
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:40,000
um but that's and then what what i found

1181
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,440
so interesting was that what he didn't

1182
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:44,720
say

1183
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,480
was that a cruise missile just flew over

1184
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:49,760
the aircraft

1185
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:53,040
that's what he didn't say right he did

1186
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,480
he didn't say that that's that's a very

1187
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:58,480
unlikely scenario

1188
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,880
like it probably wasn't a cruise missile

1189
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,520
right

1190
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,200
and that's what he did he probably

1191
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:05,040
wasn't right and i think the pilot knew

1192
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:05,359
that

1193
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,119
he saw something

1194
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,400
but he also didn't say it was a cruise

1195
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:16,000
missile a cruise missile just flew

1196
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:17,599
overhead are there any missile tests

1197
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,400
going on

1198
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:21,440
that's not what he said no because if

1199
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,040
it truly was unidentified and um

1200
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:27,280
yeah i mean if that were a cruise

1201
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,400
missile that would actually

1202
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,000
be more shocking than if it were an

1203
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,319
alien craft because alien craft we know

1204
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:34,160
they've done this for decades

1205
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:37,040
if you've got a cruise missile being

1206
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:37,680
like

1207
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:40,800
i mean you're not ridiculously far

1208
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:43,920
from the white sands proving ground

1209
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:46,000
it's i mean you're out of range there

1210
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:48,240
but but

1211
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,960
it is new mexico lots of stuff going on

1212
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,240
there for sure

1213
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,880
but i mean can you imagine seriously if

1214
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:56,400
there was a missile test and they went

1215
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:57,440
that far off

1216
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:00,839
and they nearly take out a civilian

1217
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,079
aircraft

1218
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,400
american airlines like come on like

1219
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:06,559
that's absolutely absurd and ridiculous

1220
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:10,480
and and someone damn well better be

1221
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:13,359
investigating that but as far as we know

1222
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:16,079
there's there is no there's no military

1223
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:17,760
source for this

1224
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:21,119
now if there is they better

1225
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,720
find that out yeah they've got some

1226
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:24,640
explaining to do really really serious

1227
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,200
and

1228
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:27,440
ridic incredibly dangerous but i don't

1229
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,640
think anyone really thinks that that's

1230
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:30,240
the case just like when ttsa used to

1231
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,520
play their little game of

1232
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:33,119
well it could be russian or chinese and

1233
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:34,640
like no one ever believed that

1234
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,000
ever ever but they got to say it to

1235
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:41,040
follow the cya rule and you know it's

1236
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:42,559
the same with this like

1237
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,160
you have to go through the motions but

1238
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,079
everyone i think everyone realizes

1239
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,800
uh this is not a cruise missile and if

1240
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,000
it's black budget tech

1241
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,280
that's also kind of a crazy thing to

1242
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,960
contemplate that we've got black budget

1243
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:56,000
tech that's

1244
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,839
scaring the living hell out of people

1245
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:02,160
flying from kentucky to uh wherever they

1246
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,200
were going

1247
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,960
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jimmy church tonight richard dolan

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we're talking about the incident the

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encounter that happened

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february 21st sunday morning over new

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mexico

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american airlines flight 2292

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and uh richard i am going to

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play the audio here it is one more time

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from

1396
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:07,040
the pilot to the tower have any targets

1397
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,960
up here we just had something go right

1398
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:10,720
over the top of us this

1399
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,559
i hate to say this looked like a long

1400
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,559
cylindrical object it almost looked like

1401
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:16,000
a cruise missile type of thing

1402
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,760
moving really fast that went right over

1403
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:19,200
the top of us

1404
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:23,280
now uh richard uh uh a few things come

1405
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,720
to mind here

1406
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:27,760
uh first off if

1407
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,119
the military is doing some kind of

1408
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:33,280
missile testing live fire

1409
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:36,319
what have you in new mexico i would

1410
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:40,319
have to assume that everybody would be

1411
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,240
alerted right all the towers would know

1412
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:44,400
about it all of the commercial aircraft

1413
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:45,200
would

1414
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,240
in you're not going to fly a commercial

1415
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:52,160
airline through this airspace

1416
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:55,280
without everybody being notified am i am

1417
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:55,520
i

1418
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:02,160
tyler rogoway of the war zone on the

1419
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,359
drive did a

1420
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:06,160
a very good article about this he does a

1421
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,119
lot of good work

1422
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,079
and i really i think he deserves some

1423
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,760
recognition from those of us who follow

1424
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,359
the ufo field i think

1425
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:15,119
that website and he particularly has

1426
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,640
done very good journalism

1427
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,559
over the last couple of years and he

1428
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:19,760
made the same point

1429
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:22,400
you know like if you're going to if you

1430
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,359
are the military and you're going to

1431
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:28,079
launch a missile which sometimes they do

1432
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:29,440
fine

1433
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:32,079
it's standard you have to let commercial

1434
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:32,960
air traffic

1435
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:36,000
know that they're going to come nearby

1436
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,520
like you have to do that they've had

1437
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:39,599
this protocol in place for generations

1438
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:40,480
like that's

1439
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,680
a no-brainer so i don't i don't really

1440
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,599
think anyone is seriously

1441
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:48,000
thinking that the military did this if

1442
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,200
that were the case

1443
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:52,240
you have a that's a seriously rogue

1444
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,359
operation going on there like so

1445
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:58,559
vast so incredibly illegal that

1446
00:58:02,069 --> 00:58:01,599
uh i mean that would that would actually

1447
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:02,079
make

1448
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:05,760
national headlines like that would be a

1449
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:08,880
massive scandal and that would be known

1450
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:11,119
yes and if we take it a step further

1451
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:12,640
let's say

1452
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,440
somebody tripped over a cable right

1453
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:17,440
somebody spilled a coke

1454
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:21,280
and this was an accidental launch

1455
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:23,440
that is even more serious let's say it's

1456
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:24,720
an accident okay

1457
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:28,400
but you alert everybody holy crap we've

1458
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:28,880
got

1459
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:32,880
area and you notify

1460
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:35,599
so the tower can you know when that call

1461
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,520
comes in the tower says hey

1462
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,760
it's an accidental missile launch that's

1463
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,440
where it is we're notifying everybody

1464
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:43,440
right now it happened a few minutes ago

1465
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,640
but we didn't even get that either we do

1466
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:48,319
have a history of covering up

1467
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,000
that type of thing i mean think twa

1468
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:51,760
1994. sure

1469
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,599
all right and look i think i think we're

1470
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,839
26 27 years after i think we can

1471
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:59,440
actually just come out and say

1472
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,119
that thing was taken down by a missile

1473
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:02,960
and anyone who's really gone into it

1474
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:05,359
pretty much knows this and we're never

1475
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:06,799
ever ever going to get an

1476
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:08,799
official admission of that because

1477
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:10,480
that's a conspiracy theory

1478
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:12,720
and god forbid anyone believes in a

1479
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:13,599
conspiracy

1480
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,960
ever at least the wrong kind of

1481
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:16,640
conspiracies you're always supposed to

1482
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,599
believe in the right kinds of

1483
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:18,799
conspiracies

1484
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:22,400
but the fact is you know

1485
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:25,440
the us military has done things like

1486
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:26,559
this

1487
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:30,400
and i am going to just say 1994 twa yes

1488
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,920
but having said that i'm very doubtful

1489
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,160
that that this is the case here i mean

1490
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:42,390
my god like that is just such a crazy

1491
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:43,680
thing to consider

1492
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:45,599
but we should actually consider it and

1493
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,040
it should be investigated

1494
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,440
on that basis uh not that we would ever

1495
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:51,359
get any kind of truth out of that i mean

1496
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:52,799
i think we can all realize

1497
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,839
if there if that were a missile

1498
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,599
all right serious let's just let's just

1499
01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:59,359
war game this one out for a moment

1500
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:02,000
if that were a cruise missile or some

1501
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,599
kind of u.s missile

1502
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:06,480
do you or does anyone listening honestly

1503
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,119
think

1504
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:09,200
that there would be the slightest bit of

1505
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:10,319
genuine

1506
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,640
investigative honesty in the reporting

1507
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:14,079
of what actually happened

1508
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,119
i think the answer is not at all not a

1509
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:18,640
chance there would never be honesty

1510
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:19,200
about that

1511
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:22,079
and we know so much right about this

1512
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,359
event now because

1513
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:25,440
we know the airline we know the flight

1514
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:27,599
we know the time we know the location

1515
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:30,799
yeah yeah and we have a recording of the

1516
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,359
sighting

1517
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:33,440
right we've got all of the elements in

1518
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:34,400
there there's

1519
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,079
too much here for uh the community

1520
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:40,079
not too good not not only the ufo

1521
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:42,079
community but anybody that wants to look

1522
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,720
into this

1523
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:45,040
there's too much information there uh

1524
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,839
today

1525
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:48,240
uh yeah it's true like it would be very

1526
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:49,920
hard for them to hide this

1527
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:52,079
it would be very hard like it's that's

1528
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:52,960
really you're

1529
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,079
bringing up a good point like in 94

1530
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:58,240
independent investigators had much much

1531
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,280
of a less

1532
01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,599
ability to dive into it there were

1533
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:02,640
people who

1534
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,319
did actually but you know we have a

1535
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:09,359
much greater ability today so that if

1536
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:10,160
the military

1537
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:11,839
or the government were to investigate

1538
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:13,280
like you know that they would not do it

1539
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:14,559
honestly

1540
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,559
uh just like they won't do an honest uap

1541
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:18,160
report if they come out with that in

1542
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:18,960
june

1543
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,000
but um but it's true like the public

1544
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:24,240
at least in theory has some ability to

1545
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:25,920
look into this whether the public really

1546
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:27,040
would or

1547
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:28,799
whether any findings would come out i

1548
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,079
mean we're in an era now that

1549
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,680
everything's upside down so

1550
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,760
if there were uh independent

1551
01:01:37,829 --> 01:01:35,920
investigators who said holy crap like

1552
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:37,839
they actually did launch a missile and

1553
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:39,520
someone puts it on facebook boom that

1554
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:40,319
gets pulled

1555
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:42,559
or they put it on youtube video that

1556
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:44,000
gets taken down

1557
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:46,160
like that really could happen now so you

1558
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,160
really have to wonder

1559
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:50,880
uh what is the ability of ordinary

1560
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:52,880
citizens any longer

1561
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:56,480
to go into this in a genuine way now

1562
01:02:03,430 --> 01:02:00,400
you know tyler rogue away has sort of

1563
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:03,440
kind of opened the gate here and

1564
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:06,160
has done a good like opening salvo into

1565
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,680
looking into this but

1566
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:09,520
you know he's the first to say like we

1567
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:10,880
don't really know what this thing was

1568
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:12,079
and

1569
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:13,520
there's not a lot of information right

1570
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:15,200
now but potentially

1571
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:18,000
independent investigators can but

1572
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:19,280
realistically

1573
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:20,799
i'm just going to say right now i doubt

1574
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:22,000
that anyone's going to find that this

1575
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:23,119
was a military launch

1576
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:24,720
i just don't think so i don't see it

1577
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:26,160
either yeah

1578
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:30,559
now the the cylindrical

1579
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:34,240
part of this a cylindrical ufo

1580
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:37,680
now richard reports about these

1581
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:40,319
in the tens of thousands uh throughout

1582
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:41,200
history

1583
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:43,440
i had i have never seen a cylindrical

1584
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:45,680
ufo i've been waiting for that i've seen

1585
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,559
everything else

1586
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:49,359
right but i have never seen a

1587
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:52,240
cylindrical ufo but these reports

1588
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,799
have been going on uh for decades and

1589
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:56,240
decades haven't they

1590
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:59,520
since prior to the 40s um you know in

1591
01:03:02,789 --> 01:03:01,359
the 40s we've got some declassified

1592
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:02,799
documents they are

1593
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:05,359
rock solid legit documents that describe

1594
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:06,960
united states military encountering

1595
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:08,799
objects traveling at estimated speeds of

1596
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:09,280
9

1597
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:12,079
000 miles per hour cylindrical objects

1598
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,079
in 1947-48

1599
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:16,799
all right and i i've often told people

1600
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:18,319
of a sighting that i found in the

1601
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:19,599
canadian archives

1602
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:22,480
dated from 1936 it was a man writing

1603
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:23,599
retrospectively but

1604
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,160
there's no reason to doubt this man 1936

1605
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:27,760
up in the northwest territories middle

1606
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:28,720
of nowhere

1607
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:30,799
sees essentially a tic tac ufo except

1608
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:32,559
it's gunmetal gray not white

1609
01:03:36,309 --> 01:03:34,559
but it's shaped exactly the same and it

1610
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:36,319
has had instant acceleration

1611
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:39,680
silently 1936 so these things have been

1612
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:42,480
reported for a long long time

1613
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:46,240
and you know look we're not making those

1614
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,920
we weren't making those in the 30s and

1615
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,839
40s there's not a shred

1616
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:52,000
of evidence or scientific theory to go

1617
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:54,559
on to say that we were

1618
01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:58,799
maybe today maybe i i've got my doubts

1619
01:04:02,470 --> 01:03:59,920
but

1620
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,480
more possible today than than 60 70

1621
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:03,839
years ago for sure

1622
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:05,359
but they've been recorded for the

1623
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:07,039
longest time now

1624
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,960
and my own conclusion i wrote about this

1625
01:04:14,069 --> 01:04:10,559
in my last book the alien agendas which

1626
01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:17,270
my best theory on this is that someone

1627
01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:20,960
came here in the

1628
01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:22,960
early 20th century maybe the late 19th

1629
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:24,240
century

1630
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,000
because of our own development because

1631
01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:27,599
of what we are now

1632
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,359
doing i mean we you know we've gone

1633
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,280
through our whole history basically

1634
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:33,280
at this lowest lowest of levels

1635
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:35,200
technologically also in terms of human

1636
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,839
population and in terms of everything

1637
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:39,680
we just weren't really able to do

1638
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:41,280
anything really

1639
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,599
until a little over a century ago and

1640
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:44,960
then suddenly we've got the keys of the

1641
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,480
kingdom we've got

1642
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:48,960
the secret of science and we've just

1643
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:50,480
reinvented the world like a thousand

1644
01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:52,799
times in the last 150 years so

1645
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,240
that would get anyone's attention if

1646
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:55,839
they had the ability to observe this and

1647
01:05:16,150 --> 01:04:56,079
i

1648
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:16,160
some other group

1649
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:18,400
could be a human looking group there are

1650
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:20,319
there are human looking operators of

1651
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:22,319
these things but they're not from our

1652
01:05:25,670 --> 01:05:24,160
they're not on our team they're not from

1653
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,680
our group i want to go back to the

1654
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:27,760
cruise missile aspect of this

1655
01:05:31,990 --> 01:05:30,000
uh because we're talking about flying

1656
01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:32,000
vertical not horizontal this isn't

1657
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,039
something that was

1658
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:34,960
you know you know that we typically see

1659
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:36,880
fired out of vandenberg that

1660
01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:38,960
you know a couple of stages and it did

1661
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:40,799
we know it was flying in a vertical

1662
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:44,000
he said he says flying over the top of

1663
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:44,319
our

1664
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:47,680
aircraft now remember uh here

1665
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:48,880
i'm looking at this quote we just had

1666
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:51,119
something go right over the top of us

1667
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:52,720
yeah it looked like a long cylindrical

1668
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:54,160
object like a cruise missile

1669
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,680
he didn't say it was in a vertical

1670
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,839
orientation uh

1671
01:06:02,549 --> 01:05:59,839
vertical horizontal is what i'm trying

1672
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:02,559
to say which way

1673
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:05,200
what is level flight is that horizontal

1674
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:06,000
okay

1675
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:09,839
come on richard bust in my balls

1676
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:13,760
yeah okay so anyway horizontal flight

1677
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:15,599
sometimes they fly vertically but

1678
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:16,799
sometimes they are

1679
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:19,680
okay when they launch but okay so anyway

1680
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,079
when they fly some of them can do that

1681
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:25,440
a cruise missile not no no ufo

1682
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:28,480
oh no i'm not talking okay so

1683
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,640
reset let's reset um back to the cruise

1684
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:33,920
missile aspect of this

1685
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:37,119
flying horizontally right flying this

1686
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:38,240
way

1687
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:41,599
it's cylindrical i i remember

1688
01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:44,240
first off cruise missiles aren't flying

1689
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:45,440
hypersonic

1690
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:47,920
you know they're flying 500 miles an

1691
01:06:52,390 --> 01:06:48,720
hour

1692
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:52,400
um they have a jet engine on it it's not

1693
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:53,280
a rocket

1694
01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:57,440
engine you would see some type of

1695
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:01,520
fins around it for you would see control

1696
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:02,720
surfaces

1697
01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:05,599
all of these things a pilot would see

1698
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,119
going back to

1699
01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:10,240
the iraq war um i remember

1700
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:12,960
uh seeing cruise missiles flying

1701
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:14,400
overhead that were picked up

1702
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:17,680
by uh video cameras

1703
01:07:22,069 --> 01:07:20,240
and watching them fly you know what

1704
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:22,079
they're doing and they're not flying

1705
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:25,599
terribly fast you can see what they

1706
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:28,799
are those pilots didn't say

1707
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:31,280
any of that they didn't mention control

1708
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:32,480
surfaces they didn't

1709
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:36,240
mention a contrail or exhaust of any

1710
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:37,039
kind

1711
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:39,520
they didn't mention any of this and it's

1712
01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:40,400
flying

1713
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,520
horizontally over the top of the craft

1714
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,280
yeah they didn't give us a speed but he

1715
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:47,280
did say extremely fast

1716
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:48,880
yeah and so we don't know if it was

1717
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:50,799
hypersonic but we do know

1718
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,920
in his words extremely fast and i'm just

1719
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,280
trying to give them credit where

1720
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:56,960
credit's due here if it was

1721
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,559
ripping hypersonic and they i don't even

1722
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:02,160
know if they would be able to

1723
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,400
see it that would just be a blip but

1724
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,119
here we go here's the recording again

1725
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:09,200
have any targets up here we just had

1726
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,960
something go right over the top of us

1727
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,839
that

1728
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,680
i hate to say this looked like a long

1729
01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:15,680
cylindrical object it almost looked like

1730
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,120
a cruise missile type of thing

1731
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:18,880
moving really fast that went right over

1732
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:20,480
the top of it

1733
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,199
that's uh that's a crazy description man

1734
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:24,880
he yeah he

1735
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,960
he would have said cruise missile that's

1736
01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:28,400
that and i keep going

1737
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:31,679
back to this type of thing right cruise

1738
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,319
missile

1739
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,279
type of thing i hate to say it but it's

1740
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:38,159
a cylindrical object

1741
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:40,480
and i love the i hate to say it i just i

1742
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:41,679
hate to say go here

1743
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:43,120
everyone knows it's like the thing you

1744
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:45,359
never discuss is like i hate to say that

1745
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:46,000
it

1746
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,440
really what he wanted to say

1747
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:51,120
guarantee you he and the co-pilot

1748
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:52,960
probably said that when they were

1749
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:56,080
you know the radio was off so uh going

1750
01:09:02,229 --> 01:08:56,719
back

1751
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,239
it's not a missile being fired out of

1752
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,239
the uh the atmosphere

1753
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:06,560
it's going in the other direction if

1754
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,719
it's a cruise missile but he doesn't say

1755
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:10,400
that it's a cruise missile and him in

1756
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:11,600
the co-pilot i

1757
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:14,640
am sure they would have said

1758
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:17,440
dude a cruise missile just flew over us

1759
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:18,640
right that's what they would have said

1760
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:19,839
that would have been the conversation in

1761
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,319
the club

1762
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,799
good point good point yeah right totally

1763
01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:23,759
agree

1764
01:09:31,590 --> 01:09:27,279
it wasn't it was so cylindrical a large

1765
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:31,600
cylindrical type object

1766
01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:35,199
did he say large let's play it again

1767
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,430
i don't have any targets up here we just

1768
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:43,120
had something to go right over the top

1769
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:44,400
of us that

1770
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:46,159
i hate to say this looked like a long

1771
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,159
cylindrical object it almost looked like

1772
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:50,000
a cruise missile type of thing moving

1773
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:51,679
really fast that went right over the top

1774
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:52,719
of us

1775
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:57,360
a long cylindrical object

1776
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:00,960
yeah man that's genuine

1777
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:02,800
that's it here's the thing i i'll just

1778
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:04,640
uh you know you've been hounding me for

1779
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,520
years about

1780
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:07,280
volume three of ufos international

1781
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:08,800
securities day dolan you ever gonna get

1782
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:09,440
it done

1783
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:12,480
so i'm actually working on it and

1784
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,199
i've been i've been like deep into it

1785
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,800
actually and one of the things that i'm

1786
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:19,280
doing right now is just catching up on

1787
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,320
my god the unbelievable massive ufo

1788
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:24,080
reports over the last 30 years and so

1789
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:24,960
many

1790
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:29,520
amazing ones like amazing reports

1791
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,520
that what we're talking about here is

1792
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:33,600
one these types of things

1793
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:36,960
this is this is not unique

1794
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,360
uh commercial pilots have reported this

1795
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,440
all the time honestly and so what

1796
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:44,640
strikes me is

1797
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:47,679
just how

1798
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:50,560
the the frequency of these i mean there

1799
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:52,480
are days i'm i'm gathering all of this

1800
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:54,000
together in my own database and

1801
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:56,400
it's just so large like it's too large

1802
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:58,000
it's actually too large

1803
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:59,760
and i've i've even been wondering if i

1804
01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:01,280
can't do this in three volumes i may

1805
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:02,239
have to do it in four

1806
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:04,719
like that's honestly my nightmare but it

1807
01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:05,440
may happen

1808
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:07,120
but the point is there are there are

1809
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:08,960
days that i've when i collect sightings

1810
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,360
and

1811
01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:11,199
they'll be like on one day like three or

1812
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:12,560
four on just

1813
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:15,760
one day like you know may 5th uh

1814
01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:19,199
2000 you know nine and whatever like and

1815
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:20,719
i'll just find like

1816
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,320
oh yeah here's like four amazing

1817
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,480
sightings on that one day alone

1818
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:27,600
i and that's not unusual i have

1819
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,320
um i'm i'm looking forward here i'll

1820
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:31,520
find it

1821
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:35,280
um i have uh okay here it is

1822
01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:39,040
okay i'm going to play

1823
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:42,640
we you know steve marillo we had this

1824
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:45,840
we had this signing up in washington of

1825
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,480
what we have classified as the beer can

1826
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,840
ufo

1827
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,920
now this is the deal this is the one

1828
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:53,679
this is a video of it

1829
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:56,800
yes i have the after video

1830
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,880
okay well no let me explain wow an

1831
01:12:03,270 --> 01:11:59,840
interesting sighting

1832
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:03,280
yes while this is going down uh lucinda

1833
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:06,560
okay so anyway the sighting happens i

1834
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:09,920
jump up um it's about 500 feet tall

1835
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:12,800
that's my guess maybe 150 feet wide it's

1836
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:14,159
14 miles away

1837
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:16,800
it's spinning i see it i freak out i got

1838
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:18,800
20 25 people standing around me

1839
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,239
i jump up richard and yell video video

1840
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:24,239
video camera shoot shoot right that's

1841
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:25,760
what i'm yelling

1842
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:29,120
uh to catch this thing lucinda

1843
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,640
starts shooting video uh the entire

1844
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:34,560
sighting richard was only about 15

1845
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,360
seconds long

1846
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,679
i go back i look at it one more time in

1847
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:39,679
the binoculars i see it with my naked

1848
01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:41,840
eye and then it phases out

1849
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:45,440
okay and somewhere in there she shoots

1850
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,640
the video but this listen to and you

1851
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,440
you know steve you can hear steve say

1852
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,199
you know i saw it it was spinning

1853
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:55,760
right okay this is the video this is

1854
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:56,239
what we

1855
01:13:04,310 --> 01:12:59,360
captured uh but it's the um

1856
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:04,320
excitement of the moment here we go

1857
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:07,679
tell me somebody took a picture i

1858
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,239
swear to god i will shoot everybody here

1859
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,480
it disappeared now oh no there it is

1860
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:16,640
there it is i got it i got it i got it

1861
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:30,149
it was a ball it was huge okay who shot

1862
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:31,600
it

1863
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:35,120
video clip there

1864
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:38,320
you go such a bossy boots man i was so

1865
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:40,719
uh you know i've got 25 people standing

1866
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,679
around me

1867
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:44,400
everybody's got a you know a cell phone

1868
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,480
we have this tremendous sighting

1869
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:49,520
and what was interesting there was uh

1870
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,800
what steve murillo said i saw it it was

1871
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:54,719
spinning it was huge

1872
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:58,239
yes yes right and uh but

1873
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,960
lucinda didn't catch the video it's it's

1874
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,960
it's so funny it disappeared

1875
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,719
i thought this was a video that i

1876
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:07,040
thought i saw this video on youtube

1877
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:09,920
uh that was another one okay you've had

1878
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:11,120
you've had a number of interesting

1879
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,600
sightings

1880
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,679
yeah yeah yeah right place at the right

1881
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:15,120
time this one

1882
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:18,080
though was in the middle of the day

1883
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:18,560
right

1884
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,760
in the middle of the day and having uh

1885
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,920
richard you've gone through so many

1886
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:25,120
reports

1887
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,480
um this the sun bouncing off of it and

1888
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:30,400
how crystal clear it was and how many

1889
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:31,520
witnesses

1890
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:34,560
uh that we had uh but this is the

1891
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:35,760
craziest part about

1892
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:39,040
all of this everybody else saw it

1893
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:42,239
phase out i didn't

1894
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,360
i was going i saw it with my naked eye

1895
01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:47,520
i'm off of the binoculars i go back to

1896
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:50,400
the binoculars to look at it it's gone

1897
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:53,520
and as that is happening everybody

1898
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:56,400
said it just disappeared and i just lost

1899
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,960
my mind

1900
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,880
i didn't get to i didn't get to see it

1901
01:15:02,630 --> 01:15:01,040
phase out

1902
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:02,640
such an interesting phenomenon because

1903
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,320
you know we hear this happening

1904
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:06,880
all the time and it's maddening because

1905
01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:07,520
it

1906
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,320
we don't have in our standard physics

1907
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,080
like a way to explain

1908
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:15,040
how people will see something very

1909
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:15,840
different

1910
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:17,120
and they're standing right next to each

1911
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:22,470
except that somehow we

1912
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,600
interact with it in unique ways at times

1913
01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:28,320
at times not always by the way i mean

1914
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:28,719
people

1915
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,880
don't all know who steve morillo is but

1916
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,400
i know him and you know him

1917
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:34,080
and i would just say that if he were the

1918
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:35,600
only witness i would

1919
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:37,840
take it to the bank he is such a rock

1920
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:39,600
solid individual

1921
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,239
uh absolutely competent in everything

1922
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:44,080
about him he's just such a multifaceted

1923
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:44,640
guy

1924
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:47,679
so intelligent and um stable and

1925
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:48,320
everything

1926
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:52,080
and a real leader in our ufo community

1927
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,080
but he saw it you saw it a whole bunch

1928
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:55,679
of other people saw this thing so

1929
01:16:01,590 --> 01:15:59,360
he was sitting next to me you know

1930
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,600
he was sitting there i mean how crazy of

1931
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:03,440
an opportunity that was right to have

1932
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:04,239
him and i

1933
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:06,880
you know share this this moment together

1934
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:07,360
right

1935
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:13,199
and i see it and there's nothing in

1936
01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:14,320
front of us you know

1937
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:17,120
but the clear blue sky with this object

1938
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:17,760
there

1939
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:20,800
and it was it was nuts so here's the

1940
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:21,360
question

1941
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:23,840
yes all right so you know normally in

1942
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:25,760
the ufo field we're used to asking like

1943
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:26,640
what could that be

1944
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:28,000
and then you know we always throw up our

1945
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:29,679
hands and say well it must be a ufo but

1946
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:31,440
what we'd never ask is what the hell are

1947
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:32,960
they doing

1948
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,760
around the world sometimes the middle of

1949
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:41,600
the day but often in the middle of the

1950
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,719
night

1951
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:45,199
like it's like it's like who's out

1952
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:46,800
operating these things like they it's

1953
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,880
like they've got a mission

1954
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:51,040
and they're doing something and they're

1955
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:53,040
doing it a lot

1956
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:56,560
around the world and generally speaking

1957
01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:58,159
taking care to do it

1958
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,440
when fewer people are likely to

1959
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:03,920
see them because there's a lot of 2 a.m

1960
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,640
sightings

1961
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:06,400
and people report that type of thing i

1962
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:08,960
agree once in a while middle of the day

1963
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,840
like with you

1964
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:12,239
yes it does happen so i get the idea

1965
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:13,280
that well they

1966
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:14,960
they must have had no choice and they

1967
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:17,440
had to just do that but the question is

1968
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:19,280
what in god's name are they actually

1969
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:21,520
doing the only thing that i can say

1970
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:23,760
is they've got their own infrastructure

1971
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:26,000
their own world their own thing that

1972
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:29,920
like they are communicating in some way

1973
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,280
i don't think that they're

1974
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:33,360
going on little rides like getting in

1975
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,120
some of these objects are tiny like you

1976
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,120
can't fit in them

1977
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:40,239
but they're like we really

1978
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:43,040
like we need to start asking questions

1979
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:43,520
like this

1980
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:45,040
and this is again questions that i've

1981
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:46,640
been asking myself

1982
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:48,880
the last few months last year or so like

1983
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:49,679
what

1984
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:52,000
could they be doing because they're

1985
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,440
obviously doing something and they're

1986
01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:55,520
doing it in a big way

1987
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:58,159
we're talking major infrastructure

1988
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:58,880
development

1989
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:01,920
a lot of energy and you know money

1990
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:04,480
in their however they have money like

1991
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:06,640
they've spent a lot of their own

1992
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:10,159
money essentially to create this

1993
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:13,280
presence here i mean unless unless we

1994
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:14,880
really are going to think

1995
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:17,920
it's all of this phenomenon simply

1996
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:19,840
some secret human black budget operation

1997
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:22,560
that just happens to have

1998
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:25,040
global reach and is doing things that we

1999
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,400
cannot even

2000
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,480
imagine that goes beyond any

2001
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:29,920
psychological

2002
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,800
explanation for like what is the

2003
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:34,159
infrastructure that would be doing this

2004
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,280
and why

2005
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:37,920
human or alien but i'm thinking alien

2006
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,960
and

2007
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:41,280
we we worked on the most baby of baby

2008
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:42,400
steps and even

2009
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:44,640
thinking about this but they're clearly

2010
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:46,719
doing something

2011
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:49,120
like what you saw you and steve and your

2012
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:49,840
group saw

2013
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:51,840
what this these pilots and the american

2014
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:52,960
airlines saw

2015
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,199
same thing it's the same type of thing

2016
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:56,480
basically yes it is

2017
01:19:02,950 --> 01:18:59,840
it is it is and you know and here is uh

2018
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,960
when we get to if you can

2019
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,520
digest the size of this craft this

2020
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,040
object right and

2021
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:09,520
it we're guessing you know this 500 foot

2022
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:10,719
tall number

2023
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:12,800
okay all right so that's unbelievable

2024
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:15,040
that's that's hard enough to digest

2025
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:18,239
but we thought uh richard that

2026
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:21,520
we were gonna watch this for an hour

2027
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:24,640
in this clear blue sky

2028
01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:28,320
right and if you look here richard

2029
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,400
you you've got the guy on my screen okay

2030
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:31,760
see this

2031
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:35,040
sky

2032
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:38,880
man for miles right the object was right

2033
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:39,679
here

2034
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:41,520
you know and we thought we were going to

2035
01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:43,120
see it forever

2036
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:47,840
the part that is the nuttiest is it just

2037
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:50,000
disappeared i had a sighting like that

2038
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:51,679
myself by the way people can't see me on

2039
01:19:55,189 --> 01:19:52,640
this video which is

2040
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:55,199
just fine i'm not yeah good yeah richard

2041
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:56,239
hasn't shaved

2042
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:58,880
today that's what he's concerned about i

2043
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:59,440
don't care

2044
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:01,840
no it's not even that just i didn't know

2045
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,880
i i didn't

2046
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,560
i don't really care people know what i

2047
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:06,239
look like i just didn't

2048
01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:07,920
anyway the point is that that sighting

2049
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:10,000
was in a perfectly blue

2050
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,320
sky there and it just it just winked out

2051
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,719
so it's like someone flying it just said

2052
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:18,480
oh snap they're watching us

2053
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:21,199
right jesus it's the cops like that

2054
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:21,920
happened to me

2055
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:24,000
20 plus years ago i've talked about this

2056
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:25,760
once in a while i don't need to belabor

2057
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:26,480
it

2058
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:28,400
but uh i was in front of my house here

2059
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:30,159
in rochester new york with a sky

2060
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:32,320
just like what you showed there perfect

2061
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:33,679
and in rochester new york we don't have

2062
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:34,480
those often but

2063
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:36,560
we had it that day and my son was three

2064
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,159
years old he was out with me and

2065
01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:40,719
on our sidewalk i was holding his hand

2066
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:41,199
and

2067
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:44,000
i saw an object that really caught my

2068
01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,560
attention

2069
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,239
what the hell is that it's the brightest

2070
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:48,320
thing i've ever seen and i just was

2071
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:50,400
transfixed staring at it

2072
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:51,920
and i had this thought like this is

2073
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,239
unusual and then the next thought was

2074
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:56,000
don't look away because this is

2075
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:57,520
something really crazy

2076
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:58,880
if you look away you'll never see it

2077
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:01,120
again no logic because where is it going

2078
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,080
to go

2079
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:04,320
my son is demanding my attention because

2080
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:05,679
he's three years old so i

2081
01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:07,440
i turned to him for a second i said i'm

2082
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:09,440
watching something

2083
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:11,280
actually pointing to hold the thing's

2084
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:13,440
place with my left arm

2085
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:15,199
and after one second i turned back and

2086
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:16,880
that thing was just gone it's like come

2087
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,520
on

2088
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:19,600
you're doing this to me and at that time

2089
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:21,280
this is 1999 i was

2090
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:24,480
deep in writing my first book like i was

2091
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:25,679
living breathing

2092
01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:29,199
ufos and i've often wondered like

2093
01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:32,480
what what is it about these that so many

2094
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:33,679
witnesses will say

2095
01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:36,320
i feel like it got into my head because

2096
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:37,040
you hear this is

2097
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:40,080
it's a cliche you hear it so often so

2098
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:40,719
there's a

2099
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:42,560
i do believe that there is a mental

2100
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:44,639
component to this and the fact that

2101
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:46,560
all these people these skeptics will say

2102
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,880
ufos silly nonsense

2103
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:50,400
if they actually think about this

2104
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,400
subject and how amazing it is

2105
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:54,159
they would realize that this subject

2106
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:56,480
takes us to the fringes

2107
01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:59,440
like in the best possible way of so many

2108
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:01,280
scientific questions

2109
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:04,080
that prompts us to ask really pertinent

2110
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:05,040
and good questions

2111
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:07,120
and any subject that can do that has got

2112
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:09,040
to be a profound

2113
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:12,159
significance to our whole society yeah

2114
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:13,840
one reason why ufos are so important

2115
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:16,480
it is it is and and for me with the

2116
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:17,280
sighting

2117
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:20,480
uh that just like yours they're

2118
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:24,080
too similar in that the sighting itself

2119
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:26,239
was amazing and and i think about it

2120
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:27,440
every day

2121
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:30,480
the best part of it i missed it

2122
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:31,840
disappearing

2123
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:35,040
i wish i i i can't i don't

2124
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:38,000
have that that part of the story i don't

2125
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:38,480
i

2126
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,760
have seen

2127
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:44,480
and to hear i firmly believe whoever's

2128
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:46,000
operating these have they have control

2129
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:47,120
over several things

2130
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:50,880
they have control there's a mental

2131
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:53,360
capability that they have that they know

2132
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:54,880
when we are seeing them

2133
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:57,280
i i've come to believe this maybe it's

2134
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:58,800
not infallible

2135
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:01,360
they they have glitches but for the most

2136
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:02,400
part

2137
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:05,440
they seem to know this and they they

2138
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:06,000
actually do

2139
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:08,080
get in our heads somehow they have this

2140
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:09,360
ability now

2141
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,480
uh for you uh that uh you know being a

2142
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,320
historian

2143
01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:16,239
uh and the way that you look at history

2144
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:17,679
and look at facts

2145
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,639
when you start to get to that part of it

2146
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,639
and you know the hard sciences and the

2147
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:24,239
physicists out there

2148
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:25,440
they don't want to get into a

2149
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:28,719
consciousness entangled component to any

2150
01:23:32,229 --> 01:23:30,000
part of life

2151
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:32,239
and and now to suggest this part of it

2152
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:33,280
with the which

2153
01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:36,000
is already a difficult subject to to

2154
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:38,080
grasp

2155
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:40,480
how are you able to make that leap now

2156
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,840
well the good physicists

2157
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:43,760
are able to talk about entanglement in

2158
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:46,000
consciousness you know they're out there

2159
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,560
but it's true most i mean look

2160
01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:50,719
scientists are basically employees

2161
01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:52,719
most of them you know we have this idea

2162
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:54,080
of science like oh yeah i'm going to go

2163
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:55,199
off in my basement i'm going to do

2164
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,080
science well no

2165
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:58,239
not really you work for a corporation

2166
01:24:00,470 --> 01:23:59,360
you work for the government you work for

2167
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,480
a large institution

2168
01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:02,480
that pays you to do a certain job and

2169
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:03,920
you just do your job

2170
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:07,040
that's your science science is almost

2171
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,080
never a personal expression of someone's

2172
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:12,159
native curiosity anymore that's

2173
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:13,840
there's no alexander graham bells out

2174
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:16,080
there or very few

2175
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,360
so now but there are there are

2176
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:21,040
scientists who

2177
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,639
yes they're out of the box and they do

2178
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:23,920
wonder about these things but there's

2179
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:25,840
there's few of them i guess

2180
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:28,560
but for me i mean i i'm lucky like i

2181
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:30,080
work for myself

2182
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,480
like you i mean we so i'm i'm not

2183
01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:33,920
constrained

2184
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:37,360
by some corporate entity that says do

2185
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:38,800
this

2186
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,360
like i've never been able i had that

2187
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:43,679
moment in my life of lego knows 30 31

2188
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:44,639
first when i thought i was going to

2189
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:46,080
leave academia when i realized i was

2190
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:47,360
going to leave academia

2191
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:49,040
i had a five minute conversation with

2192
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:50,800
myself this is totally true

2193
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:53,840
it was like do i want to like go work at

2194
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:55,679
xerox

2195
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:59,120
rochester and i thought do i want to do

2196
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,480
that and after five minutes of thinking

2197
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:01,920
i was like i'd rather jump off the

2198
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:03,120
nearest tall building

2199
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:06,159
like i just couldn't conceive like that

2200
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,199
was just me

2201
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:09,679
so i've always been like my own my own

2202
01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:11,280
guy for better or for worse

2203
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:14,480
and so but that's afforded me the

2204
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:17,440
ability to be creative and not to worry

2205
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,159
like

2206
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:20,800
not to worry too much when i have my

2207
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:21,760
crazy or

2208
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:24,080
speculative moments and frankly i enjoy

2209
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:25,280
those

2210
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:28,560
things

2211
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:31,600
the uh the consciousness part of this

2212
01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:34,000
where once you're in the in in this

2213
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:34,880
community

2214
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:38,159
and and you know the talk of meditation

2215
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:39,840
and a talk of critic

2216
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,960
crystals and the mind and and

2217
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:46,080
and those aspects of it they get it it

2218
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:47,520
took me a minute too

2219
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:50,960
richard i was very much the stanton

2220
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:53,040
friedman kind of guy

2221
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:56,239
when it came to ufology i was very very

2222
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:57,280
nuts and bolts

2223
01:26:00,709 --> 01:26:00,000
i i i really was and and i had a hard

2224
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:00,719
time

2225
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:03,280
wrapping my head around how all of that

2226
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:04,400
was pulled off

2227
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:07,120
you know in a logistical sense i'm

2228
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:08,239
starting to think

2229
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:11,520
all kinds of strange things now and that

2230
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,000
is

2231
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:14,719
easier for me to make sense of all of

2232
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:15,440
this

2233
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,280
than nuts and bolts you know a couple of

2234
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:19,199
pilots yeah you know cruising i have the

2235
01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:20,400
same problem

2236
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,400
um and for me look i'm just gonna admit

2237
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:24,159
this this is my own personal failing

2238
01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:25,199
which is that

2239
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:28,639
i allowed uh my occasional disdain of

2240
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:30,320
some of the crazy aspects of new age

2241
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:31,280
culture

2242
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:32,719
which they're you know look let's

2243
01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:34,239
there's a lot of crazy aspects of new

2244
01:26:36,629 --> 01:26:35,199
age culture

2245
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:36,639
you're in l.a you're in the belly of the

2246
01:26:40,149 --> 01:26:39,199
beast there uh i'm out on the east coast

2247
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:40,159
and i

2248
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:43,440
and like i

2249
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:46,880
honestly a lot of the touchy-feely ultra

2250
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:48,560
wu elements of new age culture just make

2251
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:51,040
my skin crawl that's the truth

2252
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,760
and it's still the truth however having

2253
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:54,880
said all of that

2254
01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:57,520
i have many lovely friends that's with

2255
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:58,880
the way they are and i love them they're

2256
01:27:02,390 --> 01:26:59,920
wonderful

2257
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:02,400
and i accept that and what i've had to

2258
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:03,360
come to terms with

2259
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:07,360
over the years is look i may not

2260
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:09,840
i may not love a lot of the elements of

2261
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,560
that culture and

2262
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:12,880
i have real critiques of that culture

2263
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:14,560
and i've given them many times and

2264
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:17,600
i feel that they are valid critiques but

2265
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:22,159
but but but there's something important

2266
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:25,360
that they do know and

2267
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:27,840
and the thing about truth is you got to

2268
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:28,960
follow it

2269
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:31,760
and when we start getting into a

2270
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:32,880
position where

2271
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,360
we start taking sides and we're like

2272
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:36,880
this is how i know it is

2273
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:39,280
you've already lost you've lost the game

2274
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:40,159
100

2275
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:42,800
you've lost and okay so let's go back to

2276
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:44,080
our conversation

2277
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:48,400
on saturday night um there was a

2278
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:50,159
thing that we touched upon we were

2279
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:52,080
unlimited time so we didn't uh

2280
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,800
go into it deeply but let's let's

2281
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:56,080
continue it now

2282
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:58,159
it has exactly what we're talking about

2283
01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:59,360
which is this

2284
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:02,400
science education

2285
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:05,840
knowledge is nothing but a series

2286
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:10,400
of humility correction

2287
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:14,400
fixing moving on admitting that you were

2288
01:28:21,189 --> 01:28:14,880
wrong

2289
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,199
einstein had to go back and and eat crow

2290
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:24,400
right he thought the universe was static

2291
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:27,120
the the theory of relative special and

2292
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:28,960
general relativity were based on a

2293
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:30,320
couple of things and one of them was

2294
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:31,040
that the

2295
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:34,480
universe does not move it is static

2296
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:37,199
he had to go back and modify his

2297
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:38,400
equations

2298
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:41,120
and e crow that's what science is based

2299
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:44,719
on and just like ufology and ufos

2300
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:46,960
and everything else that is a series of

2301
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:49,040
corrections we know so much more today

2302
01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:50,719
than what we knew in 1970

2303
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:54,639
1975 1980 and it's nothing but a series

2304
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,360
of corrections and it's okay to do that

2305
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:59,040
it's the only way to move forward

2306
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,880
richard you've raised a super important

2307
01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:01,760
point jimmy

2308
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,199
like that's really profound like in

2309
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:05,360
other words what true science requires

2310
01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:06,320
humility

2311
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,840
and it's the opposite of being an

2312
01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:11,280
ideologue where you know an ideologue

2313
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:11,679
whether

2314
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:14,560
political or any any other like when you

2315
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:16,800
are committed to an ideology

2316
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:19,840
you you are discarding

2317
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:23,280
the empirical results of whatever it is

2318
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:24,639
you're studying like science

2319
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:26,239
science means that you are going to lay

2320
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:27,679
yourself

2321
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:30,159
on the at the basis of what you are

2322
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:32,000
analyzing empirically

2323
01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:35,040
and what that is telling you about the

2324
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:36,400
structure of reality

2325
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:37,600
whatever it is whether it's about

2326
01:29:42,669 --> 01:29:40,080
science or politics or society

2327
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:42,679
or anything it's a it's an attitude of

2328
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:44,080
humility

2329
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:47,520
where you are willing to recognize

2330
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:50,560
hey i don't know everything um

2331
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:53,520
and that's the great strength of science

2332
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:54,800
that's the great strength of science

2333
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,639
bertrand russell who

2334
01:29:59,990 --> 01:29:58,719
you know wrote about this million years

2335
01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:00,000
ago in the 1930s

2336
01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:01,600
had a book called science and religion

2337
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:03,440
and i

2338
01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:05,040
i love a lot of russell there's certain

2339
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,880
things that i i don't think that i agree

2340
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:08,480
with every everything but he he was

2341
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:11,120
right on where he said like science

2342
01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:14,400
science is this humility where you are

2343
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:16,159
everything that you know is provisional

2344
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,520
and is is

2345
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:19,199
liable to be corrected and it's

2346
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:21,040
temporary it's yeah it's it's

2347
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:24,239
it's it's a it's it's a placeholder

2348
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,840
right and you have to be satisfied with

2349
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:27,520
that that's it

2350
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:30,480
that's exactly and so i'm spinning this

2351
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:31,920
back on you

2352
01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:35,600
yeah so now you are

2353
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:37,840
looking into the the conscious

2354
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:38,639
connection

2355
01:30:45,270 --> 01:30:42,480
side of uh aliens and e.t

2356
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:45,280
and what possibly can uh be happening

2357
01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:45,840
here

2358
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:47,600
but you didn't necessarily have that

2359
01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:49,679
consideration in years past

2360
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:52,800
no no no i did not i mean absolutely i

2361
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:54,320
did not it took me a long time

2362
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:57,040
when i started diving into ufos in the

2363
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:58,320
90s no

2364
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:01,360
i mean i was aware of it but

2365
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:03,120
you know the thing with the ufo subject

2366
01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:05,040
with with a lot of other deep subjects

2367
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:05,440
as well

2368
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:08,080
ufos aren't unique here but you you have

2369
01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:10,000
to enter the field by degrees like it's

2370
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:11,920
very difficult for anyone

2371
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:15,280
to just go full on and people

2372
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:18,880
who are novices do not realize just how

2373
01:31:21,830 --> 01:31:20,800
vast and comprehensive and deep this

2374
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:21,840
subject is

2375
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:24,880
and so it takes time to assimilate every

2376
01:31:30,310 --> 01:31:25,760
new

2377
01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:30,320
it takes time

2378
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:35,440
really to go through that whole process

2379
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:37,600
and if you're going to do it honestly

2380
01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:39,440
you can't do it quickly

2381
01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:43,199
you've got to absorb every new

2382
01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:44,960
like i used to i used to use the analogy

2383
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:46,400
like um

2384
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,840
like with the matrix you know you take

2385
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,600
the red pill and you're done but

2386
01:31:53,430 --> 01:31:51,040
with us like you have to take new red

2387
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:53,440
pills like every six to 12 months like

2388
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:55,600
it's like you take the pill and like rip

2389
01:31:58,229 --> 01:31:57,360
open the reality like oh i see things

2390
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:58,239
more clearly

2391
01:32:02,629 --> 01:32:00,719
but then you realize i actually don't

2392
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:02,639
there's another veil here let's rip that

2393
01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:03,199
one

2394
01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:05,520
oh okay i'm a little i understand this

2395
01:32:08,709 --> 01:32:07,040
but there's still more

2396
01:32:10,229 --> 01:32:08,719
like i'm still ripping these things

2397
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:10,239
through it's been 25 years i've been

2398
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:11,520
into this subject

2399
01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:15,040
and there are still these unknown

2400
01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:18,080
elements of this reality and

2401
01:32:21,270 --> 01:32:19,760
i actually love the fact that there's

2402
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:21,280
this mystery honestly

2403
01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:22,800
i don't care if i don't get it all

2404
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:25,440
figured out i love the fact that there's

2405
01:32:30,149 --> 01:32:26,400
this

2406
01:32:33,189 --> 01:32:30,159
unknown element in my life called ufos

2407
01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:33,199
and everything connected with it and

2408
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:34,719
it gives me something to look forward to

2409
01:32:39,350 --> 01:32:36,320
it's like another thing to figure out

2410
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:39,360
now it's a serious subject

2411
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:42,400
and it could be gravely serious

2412
01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:45,840
like there are there are implications

2413
01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:47,440
of this that we really need to

2414
01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:49,040
continually ask like

2415
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:50,639
who these other beings are and what

2416
01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:53,120
their agendas happen to be

2417
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:55,360
and that can be very wonderful or that

2418
01:33:00,149 --> 01:32:56,639
could be very

2419
01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:00,159
scary or both

2420
01:33:03,590 --> 01:33:02,159
but it is it's an interesting mystery

2421
01:33:06,229 --> 01:33:03,600
you said to me once

2422
01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:06,239
i i want your reaction to this you said

2423
01:33:10,070 --> 01:33:07,520
to me once

2424
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:10,080
privately i hope you don't mind me

2425
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:11,840
saying this but you said to me privately

2426
01:33:16,950 --> 01:33:13,199
he said jimmy

2427
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:16,960
i'm in this for the long game i'm i'm

2428
01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:19,840
i'm not going to give this up ever do

2429
01:33:24,149 --> 01:33:21,440
you remember saying that to me

2430
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:24,159
yes yes yeah i think i called myself a

2431
01:33:28,310 --> 01:33:25,120
lifer

2432
01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:28,320
i think you did but but that but that's

2433
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:29,840
where we are

2434
01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:32,400
again back to the humility side of this

2435
01:33:36,709 --> 01:33:33,679
this is a long road

2436
01:33:37,990 --> 01:33:36,719
and we don't know much but we've got to

2437
01:33:39,910 --> 01:33:38,000
keep pushing forward

2438
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:39,920
you know if we give up we've got nothing

2439
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:41,520
the band breaks up

2440
01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:43,840
you've got nothing i couldn't leave it

2441
01:33:47,189 --> 01:33:44,719
if i wanted to

2442
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:47,199
and i don't want to um and i couldn't

2443
01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:48,880
leave it if i wanted to because it's too

2444
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:50,400
interesting

2445
01:33:53,669 --> 01:33:51,679
it's like we were talking about that

2446
01:33:56,149 --> 01:33:53,679
scene in godfather 3

2447
01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:56,159
where pacino says i wanted to leave and

2448
01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:58,800
they kept pulling me back in

2449
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:00,960
that's that would be ufos for me like i

2450
01:34:08,870 --> 01:34:02,480
couldn't

2451
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:08,880
interesting it's too fascinating do you

2452
01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:11,679
think um let me look at the clock here

2453
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:12,719
oh i blew by

2454
01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:15,840
uh i blew through a commercial break we

2455
01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:16,320
were too

2456
01:34:22,790 --> 01:34:19,360
into it i'll i'll play catch-up later

2457
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:22,800
but this is this is where

2458
01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:24,080
uh i want to talk about what the

2459
01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:26,000
government knows but before that i want

2460
01:34:30,830 --> 01:34:28,159
to talk about doug adams

2461
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:30,840
in that the hitchhiker's guide to the

2462
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:33,760
galaxy may be closer to the mark

2463
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:36,800
than than we know what a great book that

2464
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:37,440
was

2465
01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:41,280
amazing on so many different levels but

2466
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:46,000
how how they uh traveled the universe

2467
01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:49,280
with the uh with with the machine

2468
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:52,080
that scrambled the probability what did

2469
01:34:55,510 --> 01:34:53,760
they call it the

2470
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:55,520
man i can't remember it i've read it

2471
01:35:00,390 --> 01:34:57,040
years ago it was so good

2472
01:35:02,470 --> 01:35:00,400
but so remember 42.

2473
01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:02,480
they took probabilities mixed it up and

2474
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:03,840
then whatever came out

2475
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:07,199
you were able to uh you know uh travel

2476
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:08,880
from one point of the universe to the

2477
01:35:13,189 --> 01:35:09,600
other

2478
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:13,199
um and it's it's because now we know

2479
01:35:16,629 --> 01:35:14,239
with quantum physics

2480
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:16,639
and and quantum mechanics and and how

2481
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:18,719
all of that is based on probabilities

2482
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:20,639
it's the math and trying to figure out

2483
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:22,000
how things will be

2484
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:24,159
wow how smart yeah a million years in

2485
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:26,320
like 1980 81 something like that

2486
01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:28,960
how crazy is that right douglas adams no

2487
01:35:33,149 --> 01:35:30,800
it was before then i read it

2488
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:33,159
in high school oh in the seven days in

2489
01:35:36,950 --> 01:35:34,480
78

2490
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:36,960
i had my paper back i wonder when that

2491
01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:37,840
was written

2492
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:41,199
i don't know look it up i i guess i read

2493
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:43,679
it in like 81 or 82. i was a little late

2494
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:45,600
in the game there

2495
01:35:52,189 --> 01:35:48,639
but hold on i want to re-read that it's

2496
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:54,830
1978

2497
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:58,000
here that

2498
01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:59,760
original i didn't know this it

2499
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:01,040
originated

2500
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:04,080
as a bbc radio show

2501
01:36:07,270 --> 01:36:06,719
ah oh wow interesting yeah how crazy is

2502
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:07,280
that

2503
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:10,560
yeah um but but uh

2504
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:15,679
what is we have our experiences

2505
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:19,040
but we know that the government knows

2506
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:21,199
something they're holding stuff back we

2507
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:22,800
we do we just don't know how

2508
01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:25,600
to use the government loosely as a word

2509
01:36:30,070 --> 01:36:26,960
yes

2510
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:30,080
agencies the military uh private

2511
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:33,360
private groups private groups yeah what

2512
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:35,119
do you think that they are as confused

2513
01:36:41,430 --> 01:36:38,320
about the situation as we are um

2514
01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:41,440
well i'm sure that they have confusion

2515
01:36:47,030 --> 01:36:44,239
um yes i have no doubt that they have

2516
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:47,040
confusion i don't i don't

2517
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:49,600
i doubt that they probably are and are

2518
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:51,760
not as confused as we are like they

2519
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:55,440
are not like i'm thinking you know the

2520
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:57,040
good people at lockheed who got the

2521
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,560
their their craft that they're looking

2522
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:00,960
at or any of the other agencies that

2523
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:03,520
essentially dominate the dod on this

2524
01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:05,440
matter that are studying the technology

2525
01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:06,639
and

2526
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:10,320
whoever's got the bodies living or dead

2527
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:13,679
um my feeling is

2528
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:15,840
they know lots of things that we do not

2529
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:16,800
know they have

2530
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:19,280
or let us say they have elements of this

2531
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,040
that are confirmed

2532
01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:23,920
that we can only suspect that's probably

2533
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:25,679
a more accurate way to look at it

2534
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:28,159
but i have no doubt that they have there

2535
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:29,520
are things that they don't understand

2536
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:31,199
like when you

2537
01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:34,000
you know ralph waldo emerson had a

2538
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:34,960
brilliant essay called

2539
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:38,239
circles and the idea was

2540
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:39,760
everything you know is inside the circle

2541
01:37:41,590 --> 01:37:40,800
and the more you learn the bigger the

2542
01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:41,600
circle gets

2543
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,520
and the larger therefore the boundary of

2544
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:45,760
your unknown

2545
01:37:49,990 --> 01:37:48,159
that's the edge of the circle and i

2546
01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:50,000
think that's probably what

2547
01:37:54,229 --> 01:37:51,760
these people are dealing with like

2548
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:54,239
they've probably gotten certain answers

2549
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:57,280
that we don't have but i would be

2550
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,199
shocked if that didn't raise many new

2551
01:38:03,910 --> 01:38:01,440
questions because the fundamental thing

2552
01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:03,920
is you know we are human beings dealing

2553
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:04,560
with

2554
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:07,760
something that is beyond human

2555
01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:09,920
now i i do believe i'm just going to go

2556
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:11,440
out on a limb here

2557
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:12,800
uh since i've already written about it

2558
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,480
anyway who cares i do think that there

2559
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:16,320
are elements in our

2560
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:17,920
hierarchy that are in total

2561
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,800
communication with these other beings

2562
01:38:25,750 --> 01:38:22,320
communication and collaboration and

2563
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:25,760
cooperation like i i now

2564
01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:27,520
am willing to just say that publicly i

2565
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:28,880
mean i've suspected it but i

2566
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:33,119
i think it's true so those humans

2567
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:35,119
i'm sure they know an awful lot that we

2568
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:36,400
don't know

2569
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:41,119
it was the infinite improbability drive

2570
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:43,679
with uh hitchhikers yeah but you've got

2571
01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:45,280
to love the fate or notch man they

2572
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:48,480
are on top of their game you got you

2573
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:51,600
well your people are super cool

2574
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:53,920
they're as cool as my people and they're

2575
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:55,119
often the same people

2576
01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:58,960
yes they are no there's no doubt about

2577
01:39:02,470 --> 01:38:59,600
that

2578
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,480
the um uh the interaction with everybody

2579
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:03,280
that goes on

2580
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:05,679
live here i i love your fate or not

2581
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:06,400
they're just

2582
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:10,000
a fantastic fantastic group

2583
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:12,239
they make me look smarter than i really

2584
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:13,280
am and

2585
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:15,760
normally i can make you smarter well yes

2586
01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:16,320
they do

2587
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:18,400
like right now see i i didn't have to

2588
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:19,360
say

2589
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:22,000
uh that dan james just tweeted out uh

2590
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:24,000
the infinite improbability drive in

2591
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:25,280
twitter which i did

2592
01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:27,840
i could have just went oh that's right

2593
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:29,920
it was the infinite improbability drive

2594
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,719
richard

2595
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:32,480
and you would have said wow that's right

2596
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,440
okay cool and i just look good

2597
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:37,760
right that's what the fader dots do for

2598
01:39:40,149 --> 01:39:38,480
you know what is

2599
01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:40,159
actually you look better when you

2600
01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:41,760
acknowledge the contributions of other

2601
01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:42,239
people

2602
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:44,480
that's that's the thing if someone's

2603
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:45,520
really insecure

2604
01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:47,679
they want to take all the credit then

2605
01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:49,600
you realize like

2606
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:52,320
that's just stupid like who who in the

2607
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:53,679
world actually knows everything like

2608
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:55,440
that's the dumbest thing to try to

2609
01:39:58,629 --> 01:39:56,400
pretend

2610
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:58,639
that you know everything and and one of

2611
01:40:03,109 --> 01:39:59,679
the

2612
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:03,119
dangers of having any level of fame

2613
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:05,360
any level like being a public figure is

2614
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,119
like god forbid i don't want to look

2615
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:08,960
stupid i don't want to look ignorant and

2616
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:09,600
so

2617
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:12,480
there's always this temptation that

2618
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,760
people will have

2619
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:15,920
and that i'm sure you felt it i have

2620
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:17,440
felt it so i'm just going to say

2621
01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:20,080
like like you want to pretend oh yes

2622
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:21,760
i've read that or i know that like

2623
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:25,760
and that's the dumbest thing to do

2624
01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:28,800
like just there's nothing wrong with

2625
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:30,000
just admitting you don't know something

2626
01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:30,400
and

2627
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:35,840
amount of help that comes to both of us

2628
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:37,440
people over my website richard ellen

2629
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:39,760
members which is my main site

2630
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:42,800
i'm blown away by those people i am

2631
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:45,440
blown away by the brilliance and i'm

2632
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:47,119
going to say genius

2633
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:49,520
of so many of them who contribute and

2634
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:50,880
write comments and write to me and just

2635
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:52,480
like my god

2636
01:40:55,590 --> 01:40:54,000
i feel like the luckiest guy and i'm

2637
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:55,600
sure you feel the same way like

2638
01:41:02,790 --> 01:40:59,040
these incredible people like

2639
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:02,800
they come to us and they enrich us

2640
01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:05,040
in so many ways i love everything i want

2641
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:06,080
to be humble

2642
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,119
and i want to thank the people over

2643
01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:09,040
originally members some of whom i know

2644
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:10,320
are listening

2645
01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:12,159
and i'm just very grateful for them i i

2646
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:14,239
am grateful and humbled

2647
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:17,280
every single day by it um now i want to

2648
01:41:20,950 --> 01:41:18,239
say this you

2649
01:41:21,590 --> 01:41:20,960
reminded me of something i was like 20

2650
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:21,600
21

2651
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:24,800
22 and and i had one of those

2652
01:41:28,390 --> 01:41:26,480
know-it-all friends

2653
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:28,400
he had experience there wasn't anything

2654
01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:29,760
that you could say

2655
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:32,159
that he wouldn't have a response with

2656
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:34,239
his own experience

2657
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:36,400
with it right and one of those guys and

2658
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:39,119
he said to me i'm 21 he's probably 21

2659
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:40,080
22.

2660
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,199
and he said to me i've read over a

2661
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:45,199
thousand books

2662
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:48,400
now i i remember i said i just sat back

2663
01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:51,760
and i thought to myself i was like

2664
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:54,639
i'm just doing the math right i'm just

2665
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:55,840
doing the math so

2666
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:58,239
you've been reading books since your

2667
01:42:02,310 --> 01:41:59,119
past life

2668
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:02,320
right sorry and and

2669
01:42:06,149 --> 01:42:04,800
i wouldn't if somebody was 60 years old

2670
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,159
and said that to me

2671
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:08,000
i would still have a difficult time with

2672
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:09,199
it well

2673
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,800
there's reading and then there's reading

2674
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:12,239
right i've read

2675
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,719
a thousand professor when i was in

2676
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:16,400
college he said dolan

2677
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:18,719
you don't know how to read a book do you

2678
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:20,000
i was like 20 years old i'm like what

2679
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:21,199
are you talking about i know how to read

2680
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:22,960
a book he says no you really don't

2681
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:24,560
he said life is short books are long

2682
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:26,000
here's how you read a book and this is

2683
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:27,199
actually really good advice people

2684
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:28,800
should listen to this

2685
01:42:32,709 --> 01:42:31,760
now for history it was quite relevant

2686
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:32,719
but it could be further

2687
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:35,199
he says every good book's got an

2688
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,159
introduction

2689
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,159
which is the argument of the book it's

2690
01:42:42,149 --> 01:42:40,320
got a conclusion if it's done right

2691
01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:42,159
which is again the argument and it's got

2692
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:43,600
a good table of contents which tells you

2693
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:44,639
the structure

2694
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,159
and then the chapter is this is what you

2695
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,159
do read the introduction

2696
01:42:51,669 --> 01:42:50,639
study the table of contents first you do

2697
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,679
that first

2698
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,360
and understand what is the structure of

2699
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:55,440
this book then you read the introduction

2700
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,320
which back then

2701
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,920
i would never read the introduction of

2702
01:43:01,510 --> 01:42:59,520
books i thought who the hell cares about

2703
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:01,520
an introduction skip to chapter one

2704
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:03,840
yeah no wrong read the introduction

2705
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:05,360
because right really

2706
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:06,800
and then and he said then read the

2707
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:08,840
conclusion he said then if you've got

2708
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,159
time read other parts of the book

2709
01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:15,280
and i thought holy crap like that's now

2710
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:17,040
you can't really do that if you're

2711
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:19,199
starting out in something new like

2712
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:20,560
you've got to

2713
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,119
read 500 pages and get the thing

2714
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:26,960
but but it's actually really good advice

2715
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:28,639
like it's like

2716
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,000
before there was cliff notes there was

2717
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,560
this idea and so maybe this

2718
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:34,560
friend of yours who the hell knows what

2719
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:35,760
he actually did

2720
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,600
read the first 10 pages i'm done

2721
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:41,840
that could be i've read over a thousand

2722
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:42,880
books or like

2723
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:45,199
150 turned into a thousand because it

2724
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:46,880
just seemed like a lot and

2725
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,320
he skimmed that 150 like when you're 20

2726
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:52,560
21 years old sorry no

2727
01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:55,440
i um i i'm going to tell you a fantastic

2728
01:43:58,870 --> 01:43:56,880
story i'm going to share this with

2729
01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:58,880
everybody

2730
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:02,000
rita and i uh had this apartment

2731
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:05,040
and one day like a block away from the

2732
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,400
apartment was

2733
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:08,880
a convenience store that you would never

2734
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:09,920
get in your car

2735
01:44:15,109 --> 01:44:12,960
and drive to it was too close so

2736
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:15,119
i would walk there right it was like a

2737
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:16,560
block or two

2738
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:19,760
and one day i'm coming back from the

2739
01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:20,719
convenience store

2740
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:23,440
and i look and neck there was a dumpster

2741
01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:25,119
next to the convenience store and i see

2742
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:26,560
a stack of books

2743
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:30,239
to the dumpster

2744
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:33,199
i walk over don't even look i pick them

2745
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:35,199
up i carry them home

2746
01:44:38,950 --> 01:44:37,760
we go and i said check this out and they

2747
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:38,960
were all

2748
01:44:46,830 --> 01:44:42,960
college classes books textbooks

2749
01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:46,840
and one of them was the

2750
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:50,639
modern modern world history

2751
01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:54,239
and it's start modern right started

2752
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:58,239
at like zero there might have been some

2753
01:45:02,149 --> 01:44:59,119
bc

2754
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:02,159
with greece and rome okay

2755
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:04,400
all right this is like but modern world

2756
01:45:10,229 --> 01:45:05,840
has and

2757
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:10,239
that thing that thing took me

2758
01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:14,239
three months to read but i read every

2759
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:14,880
friggin

2760
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:18,080
word on every page i bet it's a great

2761
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:18,400
book

2762
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:21,360
oh matt still have it a lot of those

2763
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:22,960
books i'm going to guess it was probably

2764
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:25,040
published in like 1920 19

2765
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,400
sometime around then i wouldn't be

2766
01:45:30,149 --> 01:45:28,320
surprised uh

2767
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:30,159
if it was anyway a lot of those well

2768
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:31,600
actually if it's college no

2769
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:34,719
i i guess it wouldn't be um

2770
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:37,600
so i stand corrected i'm a big fan of a

2771
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:39,280
lot of those books written like 100

2772
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:40,480
years ago

2773
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:41,600
so i'm just thinking of something

2774
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:43,840
totally different um but yeah

2775
01:45:49,750 --> 01:45:47,760
those are valuable like everyone needs

2776
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:49,760
the problem with college education well

2777
01:45:52,709 --> 01:45:51,040
there's so many like

2778
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:52,719
college education is just a total waste

2779
01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:54,400
of people's money these days like it

2780
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:55,600
pains me to say that especially the

2781
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,679
liberal arts it's just useless

2782
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:59,280
um and they don't they don't know how to

2783
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:01,119
teach history

2784
01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:04,239
like you can't universities just try to

2785
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:04,719
throw

2786
01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:07,520
so much graduate level stuff out of

2787
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:09,199
these poor undergraduates who've got

2788
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:12,800
you know terrible education coming in

2789
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:15,199
like we got to get back to basics about

2790
01:46:18,629 --> 01:46:16,400
so many of these things

2791
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:18,639
and that means basic chronology basic

2792
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:19,679
structure

2793
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:22,400
no no one's got that there's just no

2794
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:22,880
sense

2795
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:26,239
of um we're the most uprooted

2796
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:28,880
society in human history you know even

2797
01:46:31,910 --> 01:46:30,320
in the past humans didn't really know

2798
01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:31,920
history very much but at least they had

2799
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:33,280
their traditions

2800
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:34,800
we don't have that we don't have

2801
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:36,320
tradition we don't have history we

2802
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:40,800
we are just uprooted floating around

2803
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,639
and that makes us easy prey for the next

2804
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:44,320
totalitarian move

2805
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:46,400
where they want to rewrite history and

2806
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:47,360
you know honestly

2807
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:49,600
digitize people and um and that's

2808
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:50,960
happening we're seeing it all around us

2809
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:51,840
unfortunately

2810
01:46:59,830 --> 01:46:55,600
um rita uh has taught me one thing

2811
01:47:03,910 --> 01:46:59,840
it's it's very strange i love reading

2812
01:47:06,070 --> 01:47:03,920
i i like history

2813
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:06,080
right i like i like those i like

2814
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:07,440
nonfiction

2815
01:47:10,709 --> 01:47:10,239
that that's my thing i will always you

2816
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:10,719
know

2817
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:12,239
i just love that kind of stuff and

2818
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:15,040
that's that's where i put my energy

2819
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,400
rita reads everything and she is

2820
01:47:22,229 --> 01:47:19,920
constantly reading

2821
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,239
all the time i i have been with her for

2822
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:24,000
over 20 years

2823
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:27,520
and and she spends

2824
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:30,880
hours every day every day

2825
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:34,320
reading i think that's amazing absorbing

2826
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:36,880
reading i watch her do it i'm fascinated

2827
01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:37,440
with it

2828
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:40,080
and and she you know whether it's it's

2829
01:47:43,030 --> 01:47:41,040
fiction

2830
01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:43,040
uh does she have a kindle or a tablet

2831
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:44,320
that she said she

2832
01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:47,440
both both both and

2833
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:49,760
and regular books too as well

2834
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:50,960
old-fashioned

2835
01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,080
yeah and so rock on rita that's great

2836
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:00,400
it's amazing it's amazing so she might

2837
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,320
have read thousands of books

2838
01:48:07,109 --> 01:48:05,199
since i met her but but at this point in

2839
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:07,119
my life i have read thousands of books

2840
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:10,000
like there's no question in my mind um

2841
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:10,800
probably hit that

2842
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:13,520
many many decades ago but but i'm i'm a

2843
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:15,600
little freaky like that too like i just

2844
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:18,639
i i'm compulsively reading i'm reading

2845
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:20,159
five books right now

2846
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:23,520
no we talked about uh we talked

2847
01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:27,600
about uh uh above top secret

2848
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:31,040
and the thing is uh in our yeah over the

2849
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:31,600
weekend

2850
01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:36,159
of the book i still have uh my

2851
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:39,280
my soft cover uh version of it um

2852
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:42,639
if you were going to recommend a book

2853
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:46,000
uh to those that um are new to

2854
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:49,360
ufology uh that are trying to get uh

2855
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:51,600
you know a grasp on things what would

2856
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:52,960
you recommend

2857
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:54,480
i actually wrote the book that i would

2858
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:56,159
recommend and that would be ufos for the

2859
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:58,080
21st century mind

2860
01:49:01,189 --> 01:49:00,080
i wrote it explicitly for that purpose

2861
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:01,199
and

2862
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,719
look i'm not saying it's the best ufo

2863
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:04,719
book but it is

2864
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:07,119
for me it was my intention to write that

2865
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:10,239
book ufos for the 21st century mind

2866
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:14,080
for an intelligent lay person who's like

2867
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:15,679
what is up with this subject why should

2868
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:19,840
i care and that is why i wrote that book

2869
01:49:26,870 --> 01:49:23,520
that was exactly why so i covered

2870
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:26,880
you know the philosophical

2871
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:29,040
conundrums of ufos and then the history

2872
01:49:31,589 --> 01:49:30,400
the ancient history and

2873
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:31,599
through the modern history and then the

2874
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:32,800
whole history of the politics and the

2875
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:34,000
cover-up and then

2876
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:35,920
the weird freaky science that doesn't

2877
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:37,840
make sense except that it does

2878
01:49:40,870 --> 01:49:40,320
uh the social implications of ufos like

2879
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:40,880
how

2880
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:42,480
the and the development of our own

2881
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:44,719
attempts to understand this mystery

2882
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:45,920
which by the way is one of the most

2883
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,000
incredible

2884
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:51,199
uh journeys in human consciousness of

2885
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:52,480
the last hundred years like we are

2886
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:53,520
confronted with this

2887
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:55,679
unbelievable mystery how we try to

2888
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:57,199
figure it out like that's a hell of a

2889
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:57,760
story

2890
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,080
i write about that and then you know

2891
01:50:02,470 --> 01:50:02,159
ufos in the 21st century like in the age

2892
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:02,480
of

2893
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:06,000
like what is that all about

2894
01:50:09,910 --> 01:50:08,560
and then contact who are these guys and

2895
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:09,920
what is it like and what does it say

2896
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:11,199
about us

2897
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:13,599
um and then what what of the future like

2898
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:15,199
are we ever going to have disclosure and

2899
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:15,599
what's

2900
01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:20,239
everything i covered

2901
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:23,280
i tried to i tried to do it as

2902
01:50:27,430 --> 01:50:26,000
perfectly as i could do and honestly

2903
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:27,440
when i finished that book i thought

2904
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:29,599
i am damn satisfied with that book so i

2905
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:31,679
would say to someone not because i wrote

2906
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:32,080
it

2907
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:35,920
wanted that to be the best

2908
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:38,639
jumping into point for anyone who wants

2909
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:40,560
to know about ufos is that book

2910
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:43,599
ufos of the 21st century mind however

2911
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,159
there are other great books tim tim

2912
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:47,840
good's above top secret or

2913
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:51,360
beyond top secret or his last book

2914
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:54,480
uh earth and alien enterprise holy crap

2915
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:55,679
that's a great book

2916
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:58,320
so tim good is a great starting point

2917
01:51:02,870 --> 01:50:59,440
jim mars's

2918
01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:02,880
uh the alien agenda is so funny i almost

2919
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:03,920
have the same title

2920
01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:08,000
um that is a very it's still a good

2921
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:11,119
a really good ufo book actually um i

2922
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:12,239
think it's

2923
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:15,199
unbalanced in the way he covers the

2924
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:17,040
subject but what he does he does very

2925
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:18,000
well

2926
01:51:21,030 --> 01:51:20,159
uh it's a little getting a little dated

2927
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:21,040
well now

2928
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:23,840
at this point i do have to take a

2929
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:24,719
commercial break

2930
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:27,199
so let's get let's do this our guest

2931
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:28,320
tonight richard dolan

2932
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i am your host jimmy church this is fade

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i'm gonna go off uh off track a little

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bit um

3024
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:30,000
in my opening uh statements uh

3025
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tonight my my little rant that i do

3026
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:37,679
uh i had mentioned that uh

3027
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there is a huge amount

3028
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right now of new ufo

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et alien tv programming

3030
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coming in the form of scripted drama

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on all of the major networks and i've

3032
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been watching the commercials and

3033
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rita and i over the weekend uh we were

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watching

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regular tv uh by the way and

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uh and i'm watching commercial after

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commercial

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01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:08,400
for this new programming coming up so

3039
01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:10,000
the rest of the world is going to get a

3040
01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:12,000
whole lot of alien invasion

3041
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:16,480
uh tv in 2021 um i'm fascinated

3042
01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:20,320
by this and then we have uh perseverance

3043
01:57:26,950 --> 01:57:23,440
you know landing on mars looking for

3044
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:26,960
looking for life on mars do you think

3045
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:28,320
that there's going to be something

3046
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:31,119
coming in 2021

3047
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:34,320
uh from mars

3048
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:36,960
is is that going to be is that going to

3049
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:40,000
be our introduction to alien life forms

3050
01:57:45,910 --> 01:57:43,840
no clue i don't know i don't i don't i

3051
01:57:48,390 --> 01:57:45,920
i wouldn't even want to speculate as to

3052
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:48,400
what they may or may not find

3053
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:50,719
um it's not something that i feel that i

3054
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:52,080
i have

3055
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:53,840
any kind of real genuine knowledge to

3056
01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:55,840
speak of i mean we can talk about

3057
01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:57,760
rumors that there are bases on the moon

3058
01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:00,320
or on mars or whatever but who who knows

3059
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:02,880
and even if there were doesn't mean that

3060
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:04,639
we're going to find anything like that

3061
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:06,480
and if we did that it would be reported

3062
01:58:11,350 --> 01:58:09,840
so if they find some microbial life

3063
01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:11,360
i guess we'll hear about that probably

3064
01:58:19,109 --> 01:58:13,840
because that's not threatening

3065
01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:19,119
um i didn't know that major network

3066
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:21,599
programming is gonna be so et focus that

3067
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,760
actually concerns me

3068
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,599
um i don't see that as a positive sign

3069
01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:28,239
actually because i mean look

3070
01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:29,920
there's some lovely people who do these

3071
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:31,679
tv shows i know some of them i worked

3072
01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:32,880
with a few of them but

3073
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:35,040
i don't have a lot of confidence in the

3074
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:36,480
ability of

3075
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:38,639
almost any any group in hollywood to do

3076
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:39,760
a a proper

3077
01:58:43,589 --> 01:58:42,400
treatment of the et subject like just

3078
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:43,599
not at all

3079
01:58:50,229 --> 01:58:46,800
there is uh another thing that i

3080
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:50,239
felt was was pretty obvious and that was

3081
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:53,440
uh the super bowl and i was

3082
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:55,679
watching the commercials as everybody

3083
01:58:58,390 --> 01:58:57,199
does right you know the super bowl

3084
01:59:02,709 --> 01:58:58,400
commercials i don't

3085
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:02,719
and but did you hear mass hypnosis

3086
01:59:09,830 --> 01:59:06,320
yeah well well but did you hear about

3087
01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:09,840
all of the alien and e.t content

3088
01:59:14,149 --> 01:59:11,840
in the commercials did you hear about

3089
01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:14,159
those no i didn't so tell me

3090
01:59:20,790 --> 01:59:17,520
it was let well um

3091
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:20,800
it got to the point where i

3092
01:59:27,510 --> 01:59:24,159
was expecting the next commercial

3093
01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:27,520
to contain e.t or alien content

3094
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:31,599
it was like that it was in your face

3095
01:59:36,149 --> 01:59:34,800
throughout the entire broadcast so the

3096
01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:36,159
question is why

3097
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:38,000
what what's going on is it just as

3098
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:40,239
simple is it as simple as

3099
01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:43,520
well okay this is uh this is what people

3100
01:59:47,109 --> 01:59:44,719
are interested in

3101
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:47,119
uh we're companies that want to spend

3102
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:47,760
our money

3103
01:59:52,870 --> 01:59:50,880
in a in an effective way so we're gonna

3104
01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:52,880
have these types of commercials because

3105
01:59:57,510 --> 01:59:55,280
this is what people are interested in

3106
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:57,520
or think about messed up our society is

3107
01:59:59,830 --> 01:59:58,960
that this is how we have this

3108
02:00:02,229 --> 01:59:59,840
conversation

3109
02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:02,239
through stupid tv commercials and i'm

3110
02:00:06,790 --> 02:00:04,400
sure dumbed down stupid tv shows

3111
02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:06,800
rather than having an actual genuine

3112
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,639
conversation

3113
02:00:11,669 --> 02:00:10,639
about the genuine implications of this

3114
02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:11,679
which

3115
02:00:14,709 --> 02:00:13,360
any intelligent person would want that

3116
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:14,719
but no what we do is

3117
02:00:18,950 --> 02:00:17,119
we've got dumbass commercials that just

3118
02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:18,960
insult our intelligence

3119
02:00:22,870 --> 02:00:21,440
and and also are designed only to

3120
02:00:23,750 --> 02:00:22,880
manipulate us anyway to make us want to

3121
02:00:26,629 --> 02:00:23,760
buy something

3122
02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:26,639
like there's so so there's it's just

3123
02:00:29,830 --> 02:00:28,320
like it's almost impossible for us as a

3124
02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:29,840
society

3125
02:00:36,470 --> 02:00:33,199
to grapple with this most

3126
02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:36,480
awesome profound like paradigm

3127
02:00:39,750 --> 02:00:37,920
shattering phenomenon

3128
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:39,760
yes and the best we can do is throw some

3129
02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:41,199
stupid commercials at it

3130
02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:43,760
and and and what what is so interesting

3131
02:00:49,310 --> 02:00:44,560
you you

3132
02:00:52,950 --> 02:00:49,320
you bring up like the best point ever i

3133
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:52,960
selectively choose my programming today

3134
02:00:56,229 --> 02:00:55,520
a la carte right that's what i do i'm

3135
02:00:58,310 --> 02:00:56,239
not watching

3136
02:01:00,470 --> 02:00:58,320
regular tv i'm not seeing commercials i

3137
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:00,480
don't know what's going on out there

3138
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:02,320
in the real world and what people are

3139
02:01:07,990 --> 02:01:04,800
seeing i i'm just not

3140
02:01:10,470 --> 02:01:08,000
i watched the super bowl so then i was

3141
02:01:12,310 --> 02:01:10,480
exposed to something that i haven't seen

3142
02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:12,320
really in years

3143
02:01:15,910 --> 02:01:15,199
commercials right i haven't seen it

3144
02:01:20,390 --> 02:01:15,920
right

3145
02:01:22,550 --> 02:01:20,400
and and this is what is being broadcast

3146
02:01:25,430 --> 02:01:22,560
this is what companies are paying for

3147
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:25,440
the the marketing companies that develop

3148
02:01:29,109 --> 02:01:26,960
these campaigns

3149
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:29,119
with millions of dollars invested in

3150
02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:30,480
marketing money

3151
02:01:34,149 --> 02:01:32,000
right did they have another illuminati

3152
02:01:36,149 --> 02:01:34,159
halftime show they absolutely had an

3153
02:01:38,390 --> 02:01:36,159
illuminati halftime show

3154
02:01:40,470 --> 02:01:38,400
yeah craziest stuff that they do like

3155
02:01:43,030 --> 02:01:40,480
it's it's mass hypnosis

3156
02:01:44,070 --> 02:01:43,040
like i mean can we all just like say

3157
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:44,080
this for a change

3158
02:01:47,350 --> 02:01:45,760
like what happens this is why i don't

3159
02:01:49,589 --> 02:01:47,360
watch i love football

3160
02:01:51,030 --> 02:01:49,599
but i don't watch the super bowl anymore

3161
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:51,040
i haven't watched it in years and i've

3162
02:01:53,669 --> 02:01:52,320
been watching it in years i haven't

3163
02:01:56,149 --> 02:01:53,679
watched it i don't want to

3164
02:01:58,550 --> 02:01:56,159
participate in this because it's a

3165
02:02:01,270 --> 02:01:58,560
cultural entrainment

3166
02:02:02,629 --> 02:02:01,280
it's it's like magic they're like doing

3167
02:02:05,109 --> 02:02:02,639
magic on us

3168
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:05,119
in their own way like i really believe

3169
02:02:06,709 --> 02:02:06,320
that now i mean i don't know if they're

3170
02:02:07,910 --> 02:02:06,719
effect

3171
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:07,920
i don't know if it's actual like

3172
02:02:12,470 --> 02:02:10,080
alistair crowley type magic but they

3173
02:02:13,109 --> 02:02:12,480
maybe they think that's what it is

3174
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:13,119
remember

3175
02:02:16,550 --> 02:02:14,960
a thousand years ago alex jones broke

3176
02:02:19,350 --> 02:02:16,560
into the bohemian grove

3177
02:02:20,070 --> 02:02:19,360
with his little camera on his hat you

3178
02:02:21,589 --> 02:02:20,080
know

3179
02:02:23,350 --> 02:02:21,599
and i mean that was actually a pretty

3180
02:02:26,390 --> 02:02:23,360
badass thing and he goes in there

3181
02:02:28,629 --> 02:02:26,400
and they're doing this ritual this crazy

3182
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:28,639
creepy ritual

3183
02:02:33,350 --> 02:02:31,840
like the masters of our universe they

3184
02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:33,360
actually do this stuff

3185
02:02:37,510 --> 02:02:36,159
and we used to be able for a little

3186
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:37,520
brief time in our history

3187
02:02:40,390 --> 02:02:39,040
and our society to be able to talk about

3188
02:02:40,950 --> 02:02:40,400
it and like we can't talk about this

3189
02:02:43,350 --> 02:02:40,960
anymore

3190
02:02:44,470 --> 02:02:43,360
but but something is going on with the

3191
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:44,480
super bowl

3192
02:02:48,149 --> 02:02:47,040
and with the cultural entrainment and

3193
02:02:52,070 --> 02:02:48,159
programming

3194
02:02:53,350 --> 02:02:52,080
to become aware of

3195
02:02:55,830 --> 02:02:53,360
and so i just i don't like to

3196
02:02:59,510 --> 02:02:55,840
participate um i

3197
02:03:01,510 --> 02:02:59,520
it's a it's hard enough for me to keep

3198
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:01,520
the walls up to keep all that crap from

3199
02:03:06,149 --> 02:03:02,800
getting into my head

3200
02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:06,159
it gets in anyway because i it does

3201
02:03:09,669 --> 02:03:08,880
because it's just that good but i don't

3202
02:03:12,790 --> 02:03:09,679
have to

3203
02:03:15,350 --> 02:03:12,800
consciously

3204
02:03:16,310 --> 02:03:15,360
f that i'm not going there and i won't

3205
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:16,320
give them that

3206
02:03:21,270 --> 02:03:19,440
you know it's it's so funny knowing what

3207
02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:21,280
i know knowing what you know what

3208
02:03:24,070 --> 02:03:23,119
knowing what this audience knows and you

3209
02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:24,080
go

3210
02:03:28,229 --> 02:03:26,880
and you watch uh something like the

3211
02:03:30,629 --> 02:03:28,239
super bowl which is

3212
02:03:32,709 --> 02:03:30,639
watched by what a hundred million people

3213
02:03:34,310 --> 02:03:32,719
all of a sudden

3214
02:03:36,870 --> 02:03:34,320
they really tanked in their ratings this

3215
02:03:40,629 --> 02:03:36,880
year it was down a little bit

3216
02:03:41,430 --> 02:03:40,639
but but the point is for me i'm watching

3217
02:03:44,709 --> 02:03:41,440
this

3218
02:03:47,589 --> 02:03:44,719
ufo alien invasion disinformation

3219
02:03:50,310 --> 02:03:47,599
campaign for four and a half five hours

3220
02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:50,320
it was it was insane it was insane it

3221
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:51,360
was insane

3222
02:03:56,950 --> 02:03:56,000
is like i'm sure people listening are

3223
02:04:00,069 --> 02:03:56,960
wondering

3224
02:04:01,910 --> 02:04:00,079
what's going on with that this is

3225
02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:01,920
it sounds like this is a concerted

3226
02:04:05,910 --> 02:04:03,840
coordinated thing

3227
02:04:07,270 --> 02:04:05,920
unless like one ad company is like doing

3228
02:04:08,709 --> 02:04:07,280
all these companies like hey we're going

3229
02:04:10,149 --> 02:04:08,719
to do aliens this year

3230
02:04:13,510 --> 02:04:10,159
but somehow i think it's probably a

3231
02:04:15,350 --> 02:04:13,520
number of advertising companies

3232
02:04:16,709 --> 02:04:15,360
and they maybe they all talk to each

3233
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:16,719
other and it's like okay this is the

3234
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:17,599
year of aliens

3235
02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:19,520
i mentioned that a few times i'm just

3236
02:04:22,550 --> 02:04:20,800
wondering if they were just

3237
02:04:24,229 --> 02:04:22,560
in communication with each other that

3238
02:04:26,390 --> 02:04:24,239
this is this is

3239
02:04:27,669 --> 02:04:26,400
a million years yeah this is their

3240
02:04:30,069 --> 02:04:27,679
marching orders from somewhere

3241
02:04:32,629 --> 02:04:30,079
yes probably they're going to coca-cola

3242
02:04:34,149 --> 02:04:32,639
look general motors is doing aliens

3243
02:04:39,109 --> 02:04:34,159
i think we need to we need to get

3244
02:04:41,430 --> 02:04:39,119
sucralose in here you know

3245
02:04:43,910 --> 02:04:41,440
i mean i'm laughing but it's it's it's

3246
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:43,920
sad and it's actually pathetic

3247
02:04:49,270 --> 02:04:46,400
it's just like we have just devolved we

3248
02:04:51,830 --> 02:04:49,280
we actually once had this nobility

3249
02:04:53,830 --> 02:04:51,840
about us we actually i really think that

3250
02:04:55,669 --> 02:04:53,840
we did or at least we we tried

3251
02:04:57,350 --> 02:04:55,679
to even if we didn't really achieve it

3252
02:04:59,030 --> 02:04:57,360
but now it's like

3253
02:05:01,030 --> 02:04:59,040
just they just throw in the top no one

3254
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:01,040
cares anymore we walk around with

3255
02:05:04,310 --> 02:05:02,800
sweatpants and sneakers

3256
02:05:05,990 --> 02:05:04,320
you know without belts and then we put

3257
02:05:07,910 --> 02:05:06,000
these commercials on because we don't

3258
02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:07,920
really give a crap about any truth

3259
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:11,040
no one cares and it's it's sad but

3260
02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:14,320
it is what it is yeah when you have uh

3261
02:05:22,629 --> 02:05:18,719
the marvel universe right which is this

3262
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:22,639
you know multi-billion dollar uh

3263
02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:27,360
brand delving into the subjects of

3264
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:30,400
uh multi-world parallel worlds a time

3265
02:05:36,990 --> 02:05:34,159
travel uh et uh

3266
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:37,000
the universe of races planets uh

3267
02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:39,119
interplanetary war

3268
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:42,320
all of these things are played out in in

3269
02:05:49,109 --> 02:05:46,000
this brand that is so huge

3270
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:49,119
that everybody is talking about these

3271
02:05:53,270 --> 02:05:51,040
different concepts that before

3272
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:53,280
it was just you and i and the ufo

3273
02:05:56,790 --> 02:05:55,199
community talking about

3274
02:05:58,310 --> 02:05:56,800
well you just can't offend china but you

3275
02:05:58,870 --> 02:05:58,320
can talk about everything else that's

3276
02:06:02,069 --> 02:05:58,880
right

3277
02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:02,079
and and so my daughter or many other

3278
02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:02,480
things

3279
02:06:05,669 --> 02:06:04,560
my daughter deanna this is a couple of

3280
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:05,679
months ago

3281
02:06:12,709 --> 02:06:09,119
uh comes into the bedroom um

3282
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:12,719
now just announced to rita and i

3283
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:14,960
and and deanna doesn't follow this show

3284
02:06:19,910 --> 02:06:16,880
she she doesn't ask me

3285
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:19,920
questions she just doesn't and i get

3286
02:06:24,149 --> 02:06:20,239
that

3287
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:24,159
sand but she comes into the bedroom and

3288
02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:25,440
she goes

3289
02:06:30,149 --> 02:06:28,840
you know we're living in a simulated

3290
02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:30,159
world i

3291
02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:33,280
said excuse me and she goes yeah yeah

3292
02:06:36,229 --> 02:06:34,159
everything around us

3293
02:06:37,910 --> 02:06:36,239
we're this is binary this is code this

3294
02:06:39,510 --> 02:06:37,920
is a simulated

3295
02:06:41,669 --> 02:06:39,520
simulated world that we're living in

3296
02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:41,679
it's a computer program it's

3297
02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:46,719
uh 25 and and i said to her

3298
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:48,400
where are you getting this from she goes

3299
02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:50,159
this is all me and my friends talk about

3300
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:53,360
we all we all know that this is real now

3301
02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:54,719
i have to step back

3302
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:58,239
richard and ask myself what is

3303
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:59,840
uh where did they get the information

3304
02:07:02,550 --> 02:07:01,920
from one probably not nick bostrom

3305
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:02,560
directly

3306
02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:05,199
uh no uh i doubt they're getting it from

3307
02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:06,560
tick tock

3308
02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:10,719
maybe they are but she said that this is

3309
02:07:15,430 --> 02:07:13,760
this is fact and this is all that their

3310
02:07:17,589 --> 02:07:15,440
friends talk about

3311
02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:17,599
now that's interesting should we just

3312
02:07:24,830 --> 02:07:18,560
say it's fact

3313
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:26,709
just yes

3314
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:29,920
yes now do do i do i step back

3315
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:33,040
as as a father and go okay it's

3316
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:35,040
it's the movies they're watching it's

3317
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:36,400
this but they're getting this

3318
02:07:40,149 --> 02:07:38,159
information from somewhere

3319
02:07:42,069 --> 02:07:40,159
and they sit around and talk about this

3320
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:42,079
stuff and i find it interesting

3321
02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:46,320
to discuss it as a valid hypothesis

3322
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:49,040
one of you know several you know we all

3323
02:07:52,310 --> 02:07:50,159
know but she probably heard

3324
02:07:53,510 --> 02:07:52,320
elon musk saying you know her odds of

3325
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:53,520
living in base reality is like one in

3326
02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:54,079
one

3327
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:57,920
billion so i mean you know and musk is

3328
02:08:01,750 --> 02:07:59,119
the master meme of

3329
02:08:02,870 --> 02:08:01,760
mimer of twitter and he's not just a

3330
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:02,880
multi-billionaire he's

3331
02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:04,639
he's socially media hip and everyone

3332
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:06,480
knows him maybe that's where they heard

3333
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:06,960
it but

3334
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:09,040
what's the one thing that just disturbed

3335
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:10,480
me a little bit and i mean i'm sure your

3336
02:08:12,550 --> 02:08:11,920
daughter is lovely and i know you love

3337
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,560
her

3338
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:14,719
but the fact that she would say that

3339
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:16,960
this is unarguable fact

3340
02:08:21,350 --> 02:08:18,480
so to me there's something and it's not

3341
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:21,360
just her this is the entire

3342
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:23,599
the entire should i say generation yes

3343
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:24,400
no i'm not

3344
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:28,000
i i that's where i'm at with this yes

3345
02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:31,199
um it's not universal but i think it's

3346
02:08:35,189 --> 02:08:33,360
widespread where there's

3347
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:35,199
it's a failure of the education system

3348
02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:36,639
obviously because people

3349
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,159
don't i haven't really been taught how

3350
02:08:41,510 --> 02:08:40,320
to think like literally how to think

3351
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:41,520
properly

3352
02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:43,760
thinking isn't just something like just

3353
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:44,960
stuff that's in your head and you're

3354
02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:47,040
thinking no you're not really thinking

3355
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:49,920
thinking is a process and it requires

3356
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:50,560
it's

3357
02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:53,040
it requires a methodology if you're

3358
02:08:56,550 --> 02:08:54,400
going to do it the right way

3359
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:56,560
but isn't that i don't think they're

3360
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:57,520
doing that

3361
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:00,639
or are they doing it the correct way by

3362
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:03,119
thinking alternatively and thinking

3363
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:04,800
outside of the box

3364
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:08,000
no that's not correct it is i will it is

3365
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:08,480
correct

3366
02:09:12,709 --> 02:09:11,119
if you're thinking outside the box by

3367
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:12,719
asking

3368
02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:16,079
questions that are

3369
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:19,520
that are framed in a coherent logical

3370
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:20,239
way

3371
02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:21,760
with the recognition that you are

3372
02:09:25,109 --> 02:09:24,000
imperfect you know the person asking the

3373
02:09:27,910 --> 02:09:25,119
question

3374
02:09:29,669 --> 02:09:27,920
and that you're theorizing i mean

3375
02:09:31,030 --> 02:09:29,679
someone who's 25 years old and says yes

3376
02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:31,040
i know we're living in base reality

3377
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:32,159
think about how

3378
02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:34,159
we're not we're living in a in a

3379
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:35,599
simulation rather

3380
02:09:39,270 --> 02:09:37,440
the arrogance of that i mean just

3381
02:09:42,310 --> 02:09:39,280
forgive me for saying this

3382
02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:42,320
again this is a sign you're 25 years old

3383
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:45,199
but you you figured this out

3384
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:48,320
and yet there are probably a million

3385
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:50,000
people who are

3386
02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:51,520
super smart and have really thought

3387
02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:53,599
about this and they

3388
02:09:57,510 --> 02:09:55,679
they would not be that dogmatic about it

3389
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:57,520
but you're going to be that dogmatic

3390
02:10:02,310 --> 02:09:59,280
so the fact that this is such a

3391
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:02,320
widespread attitude

3392
02:10:10,470 --> 02:10:05,599
um among so many people just tells me

3393
02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:10,480
wow like we've just fallen off the shelf

3394
02:10:13,750 --> 02:10:12,400
in terms of our ability to think and

3395
02:10:14,870 --> 02:10:13,760
it's only going to get worse

3396
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,880
because now you're raising a whole new

3397
02:10:17,589 --> 02:10:17,040
generation of kids who their whole thing

3398
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:17,599
is

3399
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:25,599
so so now they're being trained

3400
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:28,159
to ask questions of this corporate

3401
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:29,520
dominated

3402
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:32,960
entity that only is designed to give one

3403
02:10:36,229 --> 02:10:34,639
so-called authoritative answer to any

3404
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:36,239
question you ask it and that's the

3405
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:37,040
literal

3406
02:10:40,229 --> 02:10:38,320
program this is what eric schmidt of

3407
02:10:42,069 --> 02:10:40,239
google said of echo

3408
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:42,079
we want when someone asks us a question

3409
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:43,679
you get one answer

3410
02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:46,560
like sorry man but reality doesn't work

3411
02:10:49,589 --> 02:10:47,119
like that

3412
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:49,599
reality is complex and questions are

3413
02:10:53,510 --> 02:10:51,760
complex and they get complex answers

3414
02:10:54,950 --> 02:10:53,520
but so but you have a whole new

3415
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:54,960
generation of people that are

3416
02:10:59,430 --> 02:10:57,520
growing up and they they don't they're

3417
02:11:01,830 --> 02:10:59,440
not having that complexity

3418
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:01,840
their attitude is i'm just going to ask

3419
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:02,800
alexa

3420
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:05,360
and alex is going to tell me and so no

3421
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:07,040
they're not learning how to think

3422
02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:08,480
they're learning they're learning the

3423
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:10,880
opposite how not to think

3424
02:11:18,470 --> 02:11:15,280
but if you have uh elon musk and max

3425
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:18,480
tag mark and and nick bostrom and

3426
02:11:26,390 --> 02:11:22,880
uh michio kaku neil degrasse tyson

3427
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:26,400
you know these these rock star uh

3428
02:11:32,709 --> 02:11:29,920
uh uh uh thinkers

3429
02:11:33,589 --> 02:11:32,719
suggesting this over and over again

3430
02:11:36,149 --> 02:11:33,599
doesn't that

3431
02:11:36,790 --> 02:11:36,159
have its effect don't people listen to

3432
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:36,800
them

3433
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:38,960
but the effects should be well that's an

3434
02:11:43,589 --> 02:11:40,880
interesting theory

3435
02:11:45,270 --> 02:11:43,599
i'll maybe it's true hey maybe i should

3436
02:11:47,990 --> 02:11:45,280
investigate

3437
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:48,000
point and counter point like you're not

3438
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:49,360
really investigating if you're only

3439
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:50,719
looking at one side of it that includes

3440
02:11:54,629 --> 02:11:52,239
ufos by the way

3441
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:54,639
gotta know what the skeptics say and and

3442
02:11:59,990 --> 02:11:56,880
when you're looking at any theory like

3443
02:12:00,790 --> 02:12:00,000
you really need to ask yourself could i

3444
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:00,800
be wrong

3445
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:04,239
wrong like and i just don't

3446
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:07,440
i don't think people do that and if if

3447
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:08,960
we're not doing that then we're really

3448
02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:09,520
not

3449
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:11,440
properly thinking i'm sorry but like

3450
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:12,719
that's not thinking that's just

3451
02:12:16,310 --> 02:12:13,920
regurgitating

3452
02:12:17,350 --> 02:12:16,320
some stuff you heard and you know

3453
02:12:19,430 --> 02:12:17,360
parroting

3454
02:12:21,430 --> 02:12:19,440
the latest party line and that's that's

3455
02:12:25,109 --> 02:12:21,440
actually being like an ideologue

3456
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:25,119
rather than a humble empiricist

3457
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:27,199
well no one knows everything when

3458
02:12:31,830 --> 02:12:28,800
they're in the 20s and look

3459
02:12:35,270 --> 02:12:31,840
in fairness i was i had a lot of

3460
02:12:36,229 --> 02:12:35,280
my own dogmatism at that age i thought i

3461
02:12:38,950 --> 02:12:36,239
had the whole

3462
02:12:41,430 --> 02:12:38,960
can of worms figured out like i did and

3463
02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:41,440
then i ran into ufos and realized oh

3464
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:45,840
wow like i it was a humbling moment

3465
02:12:50,229 --> 02:12:48,960
when i realized because i liked to think

3466
02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:50,239
back then that i was way ahead of the

3467
02:12:54,709 --> 02:12:52,880
curve and i was mr smartypants and

3468
02:12:55,910 --> 02:12:54,719
i won this award and that and i did this

3469
02:12:57,830 --> 02:12:55,920
and all of that stuff

3470
02:12:58,950 --> 02:12:57,840
so yeah i had it all figured out by my

3471
02:13:01,270 --> 02:12:58,960
early 30s

3472
02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:01,280
bs i didn't have anything figured out i

3473
02:13:05,109 --> 02:13:03,040
had nothing figured out

3474
02:13:06,310 --> 02:13:05,119
so i had to i had to come to terms with

3475
02:13:09,430 --> 02:13:06,320
my own

3476
02:13:13,669 --> 02:13:09,440
arrogance and ignorance

3477
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:13,679
and ufos humbled the hell out of me

3478
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:15,920
that's truth and then i realized wow

3479
02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:16,960
because how could i go

3480
02:13:21,589 --> 02:13:20,400
so far in this field and not ask a

3481
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:21,599
simple question

3482
02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:24,480
why were our top generals and cia heads

3483
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:25,840
and you know heads of state

3484
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:27,920
so interested in ufos and why is it not

3485
02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:29,920
in any academic history book i ever read

3486
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:31,040
when i know for a fact

3487
02:13:34,709 --> 02:13:33,440
from tim good's excellent above top

3488
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:34,719
secret

3489
02:13:40,709 --> 02:13:38,400
that they were interested so

3490
02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:40,719
it's like we have to recognize that

3491
02:13:44,069 --> 02:13:42,239
we're wrong

3492
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:44,079
or that we might be wrong and why might

3493
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:45,760
be we'd be wrong

3494
02:13:49,189 --> 02:13:47,840
and that's hard to do it's like really

3495
02:13:50,709 --> 02:13:49,199
hard to do

3496
02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:50,719
we always say we want the truth but we

3497
02:13:53,669 --> 02:13:52,639
really don't like people really don't

3498
02:13:55,109 --> 02:13:53,679
want truth

3499
02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:55,119
they just want affirmation they just

3500
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:56,880
want to feel good so they don't

3501
02:14:01,910 --> 02:14:00,079
like because truth really sucks

3502
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:01,920
and i'm not even getting into the truth

3503
02:14:05,589 --> 02:14:03,760
like the truth about us personally

3504
02:14:07,830 --> 02:14:05,599
like the truth about you and the truth

3505
02:14:09,350 --> 02:14:07,840
about me and the

3506
02:14:11,189 --> 02:14:09,360
effed up things that we've all done in

3507
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:11,199
our lives that no one ever wants to look

3508
02:14:14,390 --> 02:14:12,000
at because that's

3509
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:14,400
the worst truth of all so we just go

3510
02:14:16,790 --> 02:14:15,280
through our lives

3511
02:14:18,470 --> 02:14:16,800
building our little walls and telling

3512
02:14:20,709 --> 02:14:18,480
ourselves our little fictions but just

3513
02:14:24,229 --> 02:14:20,719
the truths about society

3514
02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:24,239
are that's bad enough because no one

3515
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:26,000
wants to feel like they they're stupid

3516
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:27,280
no one wants to feel like they missed

3517
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:29,119
the boat you turn

3518
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:32,079
30 and that's the biggest tragedy that

3519
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:32,719
most people

3520
02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:34,560
smart people have because like they

3521
02:14:38,709 --> 02:14:36,880
realize instinctively oh

3522
02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:38,719
i'm going to die that's like the big

3523
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:40,320
revelation when you turn 30s like

3524
02:14:44,470 --> 02:14:42,960
i'm not a kid anymore i'm actually going

3525
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:44,480
to die one day and oh wow all those

3526
02:14:46,310 --> 02:14:45,679
things i said i was going to do when i

3527
02:14:47,669 --> 02:14:46,320
grow up

3528
02:14:49,350 --> 02:14:47,679
well now i'm grown up like you can't

3529
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:49,360
pretend anymore when you're 30.

3530
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:51,520
and so what they what the unfortunate

3531
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:52,480
thing that

3532
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:54,880
people often will do at that age is they

3533
02:14:57,589 --> 02:14:56,400
like okay i gotta straighten up and fly

3534
02:15:01,430 --> 02:14:57,599
right and i got of like

3535
02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:01,440
i have to accept this set of beliefs

3536
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:03,280
and then they spend the rest of their

3537
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:04,800
life thinking i'm just

3538
02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:06,159
filling in the blanks of what they think

3539
02:15:09,669 --> 02:15:07,920
they already know and they don't really

3540
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:09,679
challenge themselves anymore that's the

3541
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:10,880
tragedy

3542
02:15:16,550 --> 02:15:13,840
that many people have and they stop

3543
02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:16,560
often they stop thinking independently

3544
02:15:19,910 --> 02:15:18,880
and they stop recognizing that they

3545
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:19,920
don't know

3546
02:15:24,310 --> 02:15:22,000
anything when you're 30 years old you

3547
02:15:26,870 --> 02:15:24,320
still don't know anything

3548
02:15:27,990 --> 02:15:26,880
but we we we don't want to seem stupid

3549
02:15:31,589 --> 02:15:28,000
we don't want to seem like

3550
02:15:33,589 --> 02:15:31,599
we're ignorant so we just go along and

3551
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:33,599
and we just become ideologues within our

3552
02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:35,679
own system rather than

3553
02:15:42,709 --> 02:15:38,880
genuinely asking hard questions that are

3554
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:42,719
a [\h__\h] when i was 32 years old and i

3555
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:44,480
discovered ufos you know what i did

3556
02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:47,280
i spent about a year like at night

3557
02:15:51,990 --> 02:15:49,119
staring at the ceiling

3558
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:52,000
instead of sleeping i couldn't sleep for

3559
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:53,599
the longest time it'd be like

3560
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:55,440
all of these if then questions like holy

3561
02:15:58,950 --> 02:15:56,880
crap if this is real

3562
02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:58,960
then what does this mean about all the

3563
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:00,880
history i thought i knew

3564
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:03,599
which i obviously missed a big big big

3565
02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:04,079
big

3566
02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:06,480
part of it like what i thought i knew

3567
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:08,400
about john f kennedy or what i thought i

3568
02:16:12,790 --> 02:16:10,000
thought i'd do about eisenhower or

3569
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:12,800
the us military or like the media or the

3570
02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:13,360
political

3571
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,000
it just kept going on it was like enough

3572
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,880
to make you go crazy and

3573
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:20,560
also i'm sorry i'm going off here

3574
02:16:23,350 --> 02:16:22,079
forgive me i love it but i was at a

3575
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:23,360
point where i thought i wanted to teach

3576
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:25,119
at a university

3577
02:16:28,390 --> 02:16:26,880
and like i'll tell you something when

3578
02:16:29,830 --> 02:16:28,400
you're in that environment

3579
02:16:31,990 --> 02:16:29,840
you want to talk about the pressure to

3580
02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:32,000
be a smartie pants i was like

3581
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:35,439
i can't i can't have these doubts

3582
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:36,479
i've got to go and have to know

3583
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:39,200
everything and so it was this

3584
02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:42,399
horrible emotional crisis

3585
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:46,160
thanks a lot ufos thank god for ufos

3586
02:16:50,230 --> 02:16:48,639
it smashed open my head and my paradigms

3587
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,240
and saved me

3588
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:52,880
from going down a path that i would have

3589
02:16:57,110 --> 02:16:53,760
lost my

3590
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:57,120
soul that's what would have happened

3591
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:00,639
one thing that i i i figured out

3592
02:17:07,669 --> 02:17:04,240
um uh and it took me a while

3593
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:07,679
i figured out how much i don't know

3594
02:17:14,070 --> 02:17:11,040
and how much i want to just

3595
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:14,080
learn i just want to expand my mind

3596
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:16,399
i want knowledge all of the time and i

3597
02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:18,160
have said richard i've said this over

3598
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:19,040
and over again

3599
02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:22,080
if i win the lottery i pull a hundred

3600
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:22,479
mill

3601
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:26,000
tomorrow you know what i do i go back to

3602
02:17:33,270 --> 02:17:27,040
college

3603
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:33,280
die you know and and let me tell you how

3604
02:18:15,509 --> 02:17:33,760
i

3605
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:15,519
know and

3606
02:18:21,110 --> 02:18:18,719
and i'm there i i i

3607
02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:21,120
i never how old were you 35 you said i

3608
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:22,840
was ah

3609
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:26,559
2005 uh so no you were like 40

3610
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:29,280
yeah yeah 40. i'm not playing around i'm

3611
02:18:35,349 --> 02:18:29,760
there

3612
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:35,359
and and i figured it out you know i was

3613
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:37,599
there to learn everybody else

3614
02:18:40,790 --> 02:18:40,319
i never i never got less than a hundred

3615
02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:40,800
on a

3616
02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:45,840
you know what i mean and that's that's

3617
02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:47,519
yeah you went back with a purpose like

3618
02:18:51,830 --> 02:18:49,040
and the thing the people in their 40s

3619
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:51,840
that go back to like i didn't do that

3620
02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:54,639
but when i was in as an undergraduate i

3621
02:18:57,910 --> 02:18:56,240
was you know i was 20.

3622
02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:57,920
but there were students in my classes

3623
02:19:02,549 --> 02:18:59,920
who were at that age

3624
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:02,559
the thing i always noticed about them is

3625
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:05,280
discipline and work ethic

3626
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:06,639
they weren't they weren't like the most

3627
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:09,200
brilliant people they were

3628
02:19:12,469 --> 02:19:11,040
but they were the best students they

3629
02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:12,479
were professional students serious

3630
02:19:14,629 --> 02:19:12,880
students

3631
02:19:16,150 --> 02:19:14,639
yes they had their act together and

3632
02:19:17,589 --> 02:19:16,160
guaranteed like they're raising kids

3633
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:17,599
they got jobs they got all these other

3634
02:19:19,669 --> 02:19:18,880
things to do that i didn't have to worry

3635
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:19,679
about

3636
02:19:26,709 --> 02:19:23,120
and they're doing this and they're acing

3637
02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:26,719
like that's maturity you know that's

3638
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:28,719
that's rare for someone who's 20 but by

3639
02:19:31,669 --> 02:19:30,160
the time your 40s you've been knocked

3640
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:31,679
around by life you learn your lessons

3641
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:32,559
and

3642
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:34,479
like in your case obviously yeah you

3643
02:19:38,950 --> 02:19:35,920
were you went in and you

3644
02:19:41,589 --> 02:19:38,960
you kicked butt so it was so much fun

3645
02:19:42,709 --> 02:19:41,599
and that's all i want to do is learn you

3646
02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:42,719
know that's why

3647
02:19:49,349 --> 02:19:46,160
not only is the show a vehicle

3648
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,359
uh for me as a learning platform this is

3649
02:19:53,270 --> 02:19:51,280
you know i'm here this is your

3650
02:19:56,469 --> 02:19:53,280
university it is my university

3651
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:56,479
yeah and and if i look back to the way

3652
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:58,720
i looked at things not only with the ufo

3653
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:01,200
subject but history and other things

3654
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:02,960
you know 10 years ago when i started

3655
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:05,200
this i have evolved

3656
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:07,120
you know and there's another important

3657
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:08,560
component to this richard

3658
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:11,520
um and you've experienced this too is

3659
02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:12,160
that

3660
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:15,280
for three hours a night

3661
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:18,080
i'm not on the internet for three hours

3662
02:20:21,670 --> 02:20:18,880
a night

3663
02:20:22,710 --> 02:20:21,680
i'm not on social media for three hours

3664
02:20:25,510 --> 02:20:22,720
a night i'm not getting

3665
02:20:26,550 --> 02:20:25,520
polluted by the mass media for three

3666
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:26,560
hours a night

3667
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:30,000
i'm not getting indoctrinated

3668
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,880
i'm not you know what i mean and may i

3669
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:34,720
please i don't know how much time

3670
02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:36,720
we have left how much time do we have

3671
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:42,870
all right finish your point then i want

3672
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,080
to make a point and then i know you're

3673
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:45,600
going to go to break

3674
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:50,319
right no it's my show screw break

3675
02:20:56,830 --> 02:20:54,240
break sucks sucks we hate those people

3676
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:56,840
so just i want to say this for everyone

3677
02:21:00,630 --> 02:20:58,240
listening

3678
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:00,640
um first of all first of all every time

3679
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:02,800
i do a show with you

3680
02:21:06,150 --> 02:21:05,280
i don't know what it is about you i go

3681
02:21:10,389 --> 02:21:06,160
into like

3682
02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:10,399
hyper drive crazy mode unhinged whatever

3683
02:21:14,309 --> 02:21:13,040
and actually i really enjoy this so i

3684
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:14,319
want to thank you

3685
02:21:18,550 --> 02:21:18,000
for facilitating this whatever this is

3686
02:21:23,110 --> 02:21:18,560
with me

3687
02:21:25,429 --> 02:21:23,120
no regrets but i want i want listeners

3688
02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:25,439
if there's anything i want listeners to

3689
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:26,240
get

3690
02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:27,920
from this program from anything that i

3691
02:21:33,190 --> 02:21:30,800
say it is that

3692
02:21:34,790 --> 02:21:33,200
it's tacking onto what you just said

3693
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:34,800
which is

3694
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:36,720
we're in a world now where where

3695
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:38,000
everyone's plugged in everyone's on

3696
02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:39,120
their phone everyone's looking at a

3697
02:21:42,950 --> 02:21:40,560
screen at the device

3698
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:42,960
we're getting little dopamine hits from

3699
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:44,880
our like social media like oh does

3700
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:47,359
someone like my stupid post that i just

3701
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:49,280
you know when i took a picture of my

3702
02:21:55,670 --> 02:21:52,240
spaghetti and meatballs like or whatever

3703
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:55,680
like we we're addicted to the internet

3704
02:21:58,870 --> 02:21:56,960
we're addicted to the web

3705
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:58,880
and we're addicted to getting things

3706
02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:00,080
from outside

3707
02:22:04,469 --> 02:22:03,040
us into our brain and the problem with

3708
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:04,479
that

3709
02:22:12,790 --> 02:22:11,840
so like we was talking about thinking a

3710
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:12,800
little while ago like

3711
02:22:16,630 --> 02:22:15,520
what is the process of thinking well if

3712
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:16,640
you really want to think you have to

3713
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:18,479
have quiet

3714
02:22:23,590 --> 02:22:21,600
like meditating

3715
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:23,600
and this is something oh finally i'm

3716
02:22:28,150 --> 02:22:24,960
doing this again like

3717
02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:28,160
thank god so what is what is it it's

3718
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:28,800
just like you

3719
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:31,840
you have to have a quiet space

3720
02:22:37,830 --> 02:22:35,280
in your world so that all that

3721
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:37,840
stuff is not pounding in at you so that

3722
02:22:40,710 --> 02:22:38,560
you have an

3723
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:40,720
opportunity to decide what is it that i

3724
02:22:47,349 --> 02:22:43,280
actually think

3725
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:47,359
and the problem i'm gonna guarantee

3726
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:48,720
and you don't even have to meditate like

3727
02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:50,240
you could go for walks that's a

3728
02:22:52,309 --> 02:22:51,760
meditation you could go for bike rides

3729
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:52,319
you could

3730
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:55,920
meditations because you're in your

3731
02:23:01,510 --> 02:22:58,960
but don't like wear listen to music

3732
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:01,520
that's just poisoning yourself don't

3733
02:23:06,710 --> 02:23:03,520
like just be with yourself

3734
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:06,720
and the problem will be

3735
02:23:11,830 --> 02:23:10,399
like inside every one of us i have i

3736
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:11,840
have finally

3737
02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:15,600
finally learned this everyone has you

3738
02:23:18,469 --> 02:23:17,200
want to call it a soul

3739
02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:18,479
you don't even have to believe in a

3740
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:20,319
spiritual element to believe in this you

3741
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:21,359
can believe it's all neurons and

3742
02:23:24,309 --> 02:23:23,200
electrical it doesn't matter

3743
02:23:26,630 --> 02:23:24,319
you talk about people who have like

3744
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:26,640
near-death experiences and

3745
02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:28,560
their flatline and they'll have that

3746
02:23:31,270 --> 02:23:29,680
life review

3747
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,280
and they'll say i saw everything in my

3748
02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:33,520
life my whole life and like you were

3749
02:23:36,469 --> 02:23:34,800
dead for 10 minutes how can you see your

3750
02:23:38,790 --> 02:23:36,479
whole life it doesn't matter i did

3751
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:38,800
and like i spoke to a guy 23 years ago

3752
02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:40,560
who said exactly that he saw

3753
02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:42,399
everything he ever did in his life from

3754
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:44,319
every perspective possible i'm like

3755
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:47,680
that sounds impossible but it's he said

3756
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:47,920
it

3757
02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:50,080
and many other p this guy was a plumber

3758
02:23:54,870 --> 02:23:51,280
you think a regular guy

3759
02:23:57,750 --> 02:23:54,880
he wasn't a regular guy he was not

3760
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:57,760
my point is this what part of him saw

3761
02:24:01,030 --> 02:23:59,200
his whole life

3762
02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:01,040
like that i don't know what part but

3763
02:24:05,110 --> 02:24:02,560
let's call it the soul

3764
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:05,120
it's the part of him that knows and i

3765
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:07,200
believe we all have this

3766
02:24:11,590 --> 02:24:09,760
everyone you me everyone listening

3767
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:11,600
there's a part inside you

3768
02:24:15,670 --> 02:24:14,000
that is beautiful and perfect and knows

3769
02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:15,680
everything

3770
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:20,000
to be known and the problem that we have

3771
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:20,319
is

3772
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:22,640
we've got layer upon layer upon layer of

3773
02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:23,600
garbage

3774
02:24:27,990 --> 02:24:26,640
blocking the path blocking the path

3775
02:24:30,070 --> 02:24:28,000
and like some of the garbage is just

3776
02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:30,080
like normal life like i gotta take out

3777
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:31,520
the trash i gotta make dinner i gotta do

3778
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:32,560
this

3779
02:24:36,630 --> 02:24:34,800
but a lot of it's layers of emotion

3780
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:36,640
anger resentment jealousy

3781
02:24:40,550 --> 02:24:39,920
whatever all the stuff that litters our

3782
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:40,560
mind

3783
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:43,439
and it prevents that perfect knowing

3784
02:24:47,190 --> 02:24:44,399
part

3785
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:47,200
from speaking to us and i realized like

3786
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:48,880
that part spoken to me my whole life i

3787
02:24:51,429 --> 02:24:50,000
just didn't know what it was i thought

3788
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:51,439
that was just me having a good moment

3789
02:24:54,550 --> 02:24:51,760
like

3790
02:24:55,270 --> 02:24:54,560
wow i had a really great idea and yes i

3791
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:55,280
did

3792
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:57,920
it was a special part of me that was

3793
02:25:01,910 --> 02:24:58,560
trying to

3794
02:25:03,270 --> 02:25:01,920
open the road but then i would block it

3795
02:25:04,550 --> 02:25:03,280
out and i'd forget because i'd have all

3796
02:25:07,349 --> 02:25:04,560
my other

3797
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:07,359
so my point is this the only way to

3798
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:08,399
achieve

3799
02:25:11,990 --> 02:25:11,040
a genuine connection with that best and

3800
02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:12,000
most perfect

3801
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:13,680
part of yourself and to live in

3802
02:25:17,750 --> 02:25:15,359
alignment with it

3803
02:25:18,790 --> 02:25:17,760
which is the only goal we all should

3804
02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:18,800
have

3805
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:20,080
because one day we're all going to be on

3806
02:25:23,190 --> 02:25:21,920
our deathbed and we're going to look

3807
02:25:24,630 --> 02:25:23,200
back on our life

3808
02:25:27,190 --> 02:25:24,640
and we're going to ask ourselves did i

3809
02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:27,200
screw it up

3810
02:25:31,750 --> 02:25:30,000
be like and seriously we're going to ask

3811
02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:31,760
did i screw it up

3812
02:25:34,710 --> 02:25:33,439
and a lot of people will there will be

3813
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:34,720
one answer to that and the answer will

3814
02:25:37,590 --> 02:25:35,359
be yes

3815
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:37,600
you did and how dare you dying and now

3816
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:39,439
it's too late so you're effed up

3817
02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:42,880
so the point is live in alignment with

3818
02:25:45,750 --> 02:25:44,160
your best self

3819
02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:45,760
and the only way to know what your best

3820
02:25:50,469 --> 02:25:47,840
self is is you have to

3821
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:50,479
quiet the space you got to clear the

3822
02:25:54,230 --> 02:25:51,200
lane man

3823
02:25:57,670 --> 02:25:54,240
you got to clear the crap out and

3824
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:57,680
listen for it and ask it

3825
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:00,720
like i must i'm saying to you but i'm

3826
02:26:04,870 --> 02:26:02,160
telling you

3827
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:04,880
i have i have been walking this path for

3828
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:06,319
a little while now and it's like

3829
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:09,840
the best thing in my life and

3830
02:26:13,910 --> 02:26:12,640
i don't i don't know what that is i

3831
02:26:16,389 --> 02:26:13,920
don't know what it

3832
02:26:17,429 --> 02:26:16,399
but i experienced this this is why i'm

3833
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:17,439
saying this

3834
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:21,120
i experienced this moment

3835
02:26:26,070 --> 02:26:24,240
this knowing part of myself and i'm like

3836
02:26:27,670 --> 02:26:26,080
what is that

3837
02:26:29,270 --> 02:26:27,680
i don't know but people used to call it

3838
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:29,280
the soul or they call it god whatever

3839
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:30,640
they want to call it

3840
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:32,080
what is the soul it's your connection to

3841
02:26:38,550 --> 02:26:34,640
god if you want to get theological

3842
02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:38,560
i don't i don't know but what i am

3843
02:26:45,830 --> 02:26:41,840
i am encouraging people

3844
02:26:49,270 --> 02:26:45,840
to find a way to push

3845
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:49,280
all that crap crap i'm trying not to use

3846
02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:51,840
the wrong language

3847
02:26:59,750 --> 02:26:56,560
out and to clear that space

3848
02:27:01,270 --> 02:26:59,760
so that we can all find that beautiful

3849
02:27:03,830 --> 02:27:01,280
part inside ourselves that knows

3850
02:27:06,790 --> 02:27:03,840
and the problem is we are in a society

3851
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:06,800
that makes this damn near impossible

3852
02:27:10,230 --> 02:27:08,960
like if we were to participate as a

3853
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:10,240
normal person and

3854
02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:12,160
consumer in the society we're never

3855
02:27:17,030 --> 02:27:13,840
going to do that never that will

3856
02:27:20,230 --> 02:27:17,040
never happen no no it it's so easy

3857
02:27:20,550 --> 02:27:20,240
today with the programming that is fed

3858
02:27:23,990 --> 02:27:20,560
to

3859
02:27:27,349 --> 02:27:24,000
us from birth that your

3860
02:27:28,230 --> 02:27:27,359
goal in a perfect life is to eventually

3861
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:28,240
get to

3862
02:27:31,429 --> 02:27:30,640
a five-bedroom house with a three-car

3863
02:27:35,750 --> 02:27:31,439
garage

3864
02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:35,760
right that's your goal in life you are

3865
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:38,800
taught this from the beginning now

3866
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:42,720
you get to the age of 65 and you retire

3867
02:27:46,630 --> 02:27:44,560
and you have the four-bedroom house with

3868
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:46,640
a three-car garage and two new cars out

3869
02:27:51,110 --> 02:27:48,160
front and a pool out back

3870
02:27:53,270 --> 02:27:51,120
maybe you even have a tennis court right

3871
02:27:54,710 --> 02:27:53,280
you got to all those things that were

3872
02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:54,720
supposed to give you

3873
02:28:00,469 --> 02:27:58,000
bliss and happiness and make life

3874
02:28:02,389 --> 02:28:00,479
complete and you get there and you go

3875
02:28:05,349 --> 02:28:02,399
well that kind of sucked

3876
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:05,359
that's right that was a wasted life i

3877
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:06,240
don't feel

3878
02:28:11,910 --> 02:28:09,760
happy right now right

3879
02:28:14,070 --> 02:28:11,920
and you are speaking leo tolstoy's

3880
02:28:15,349 --> 02:28:14,080
language toaster wrote a 60-page short

3881
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:15,359
story

3882
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:17,359
if no one has time to read war and peace

3883
02:28:20,389 --> 02:28:18,560
then please read

3884
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:20,399
the death of ivan ilich it's one of the

3885
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:22,240
greatest short pieces of literature

3886
02:28:25,750 --> 02:28:24,720
and this is exactly the story he was the

3887
02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:25,760
19th

3888
02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:27,600
century russian version of a yuppie

3889
02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:29,439
remember yuppies like he was a smart guy

3890
02:28:33,429 --> 02:28:30,800
a lawyer became a judge

3891
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,439
married couple of kids gets a new house

3892
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:35,439
and hangs curtains in his new house and

3893
02:28:38,710 --> 02:28:36,960
slips and hurts his back

3894
02:28:40,309 --> 02:28:38,720
and he's thinking good thing i'm in such

3895
02:28:41,750 --> 02:28:40,319
good shape i could i really could have

3896
02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:41,760
gotten hurt well he

3897
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:44,319
he did that dull pain never went away

3898
02:28:47,349 --> 02:28:45,840
and he goes sees one doctor he says it's

3899
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:47,359
one thing he sees another doctor

3900
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:48,399
and the next thing you know he's

3901
02:28:52,469 --> 02:28:50,800
bedridden and he's miserable he's a

3902
02:28:56,870 --> 02:28:52,479
horrible patient by the way he's

3903
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,880
terrible and he's like

3904
02:29:01,270 --> 02:28:58,399
he gets to a point he's in his i don't

3905
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:01,280
know his 40s and he and he realizes

3906
02:29:08,070 --> 02:29:04,880
oh wow i think i'm gonna die

3907
02:29:11,030 --> 02:29:08,080
like i think i'm dying and

3908
02:29:12,870 --> 02:29:11,040
um and that's interesting like tolstoy's

3909
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:12,880
just such an unbelievable genius

3910
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:15,520
but anyway so he's he's miserable and

3911
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:17,200
now he's getting toward the end and he's

3912
02:29:20,550 --> 02:29:19,359
writhing in bed alone you know

3913
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:20,560
his family doesn't want to deal with him

3914
02:29:25,270 --> 02:29:22,399
because he's such a pain in the ass and

3915
02:29:26,230 --> 02:29:25,280
uh and he's just miserable and feeling

3916
02:29:29,429 --> 02:29:26,240
sorry for himself

3917
02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:29,439
and hears a voice in his head

3918
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:31,920
the voice is like ivan ilich what do you

3919
02:29:35,670 --> 02:29:33,280
want

3920
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:35,680
and it's so clear to him he's like what

3921
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:36,640
who the hell

3922
02:29:40,309 --> 02:29:38,800
said that like but he answers it because

3923
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:40,319
it's so clear and he says i don't know i

3924
02:29:43,830 --> 02:29:42,479
want this pain to go away how about that

3925
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:43,840
and the voice is all right so you want

3926
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:45,280
the pain to go away is that really what

3927
02:29:47,830 --> 02:29:45,840
you want

3928
02:29:49,349 --> 02:29:47,840
what do you really want and he says i

3929
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:49,359
don't know i

3930
02:29:52,630 --> 02:29:51,600
i'm miserable i'm i would like to be

3931
02:29:55,670 --> 02:29:52,640
happy

3932
02:29:58,309 --> 02:29:55,680
voice is like okay

3933
02:29:59,110 --> 02:29:58,319
when were you happy and he and he thinks

3934
02:30:01,270 --> 02:29:59,120
through his life

3935
02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:01,280
and and i'm really boiling this down and

3936
02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:02,560
he realizes

3937
02:30:05,830 --> 02:30:04,000
he hasn't been happy in years like he

3938
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:05,840
never really loved his wife his wife

3939
02:30:10,150 --> 02:30:07,120
didn't really love him they just

3940
02:30:12,309 --> 02:30:10,160
went through the motions his career

3941
02:30:13,270 --> 02:30:12,319
like his stupid card games like he

3942
02:30:15,510 --> 02:30:13,280
wasn't happy

3943
02:30:16,870 --> 02:30:15,520
and he was young when he was happy he

3944
02:30:17,670 --> 02:30:16,880
was like a young man he had friends and

3945
02:30:19,750 --> 02:30:17,680
then he realized

3946
02:30:21,590 --> 02:30:19,760
as a child i was the happiest i was

3947
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:21,600
surrounded by people who loved me and

3948
02:30:24,790 --> 02:30:22,160
who i

3949
02:30:26,389 --> 02:30:24,800
loved and then a domino fell and it was

3950
02:30:28,950 --> 02:30:26,399
like oh my god

3951
02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:28,960
as i got older in my life i moved away

3952
02:30:32,389 --> 02:30:30,880
from all of those most important things

3953
02:30:34,790 --> 02:30:32,399
i started treating people like objects

3954
02:30:35,270 --> 02:30:34,800
and all that and then another domino

3955
02:30:37,270 --> 02:30:35,280
felt

3956
02:30:39,429 --> 02:30:37,280
the ultimate domino which was like oh

3957
02:30:43,990 --> 02:30:39,439
crap what if i've lived my whole life

3958
02:30:47,190 --> 02:30:44,000
wrong and tolstoy being pitiless

3959
02:30:48,790 --> 02:30:47,200
like yeah you did and

3960
02:30:50,230 --> 02:30:48,800
he gets a little bit of redemption for

3961
02:30:52,710 --> 02:30:50,240
people who want to read it

3962
02:30:54,710 --> 02:30:52,720
and i can tell you like believe me this

3963
02:30:58,230 --> 02:30:54,720
is a story really worth reading and

3964
02:30:59,590 --> 02:30:58,240
really worth going deep on um

3965
02:31:01,590 --> 02:30:59,600
tolstoy is one of these people like

3966
02:31:03,830 --> 02:31:01,600
every page he drops like all these

3967
02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:03,840
bombs on every single page it's it's

3968
02:31:07,270 --> 02:31:05,200
amazing like how

3969
02:31:09,110 --> 02:31:07,280
how he could do that but the point is

3970
02:31:11,429 --> 02:31:09,120
like

3971
02:31:13,670 --> 02:31:11,439
that's a universal truth story of ivan

3972
02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:13,680
illich and you just spoke to it

3973
02:31:16,870 --> 02:31:16,399
and it will always be truth because it

3974
02:31:21,190 --> 02:31:16,880
will

3975
02:31:23,349 --> 02:31:21,200
our life

3976
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:23,359
this the stuff that we're being told to

3977
02:31:27,990 --> 02:31:25,120
like we're supposed to care about

3978
02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:28,000
by this have this do this well we need

3979
02:31:35,190 --> 02:31:30,960
things we need things to live yes

3980
02:31:39,110 --> 02:31:35,200
but but what we need are

3981
02:31:41,270 --> 02:31:39,120
we need love relationships and we need

3982
02:31:43,990 --> 02:31:41,280
a loving relationship with that best

3983
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:44,000
part of ourself

3984
02:31:47,190 --> 02:31:46,240
that's it man because when you're ready

3985
02:31:50,469 --> 02:31:47,200
to

3986
02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:50,479
i have no idea i don't know if

3987
02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:52,319
i'm gonna be gone tomorrow if i got 20

3988
02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:54,240
more years

3989
02:32:01,349 --> 02:31:57,520
who knows and i just

3990
02:32:05,190 --> 02:32:01,359
i'm at the point where i

3991
02:32:06,550 --> 02:32:05,200
don't i just don't want to waste time

3992
02:32:08,710 --> 02:32:06,560
i don't want to waste time on things

3993
02:32:10,550 --> 02:32:08,720
that actually are going to take me away

3994
02:32:12,469 --> 02:32:10,560
from the things that matter the most

3995
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:12,479
fortunately for me in my career

3996
02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:15,760
i i love the ufo subject and it keeps me

3997
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:17,200
going

3998
02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:21,520
but i will never ever again forget

3999
02:32:25,590 --> 02:32:23,680
how i truly want to align my life

4000
02:32:28,150 --> 02:32:25,600
personally

4001
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:28,160
and um wow thank you for letting me do

4002
02:32:31,990 --> 02:32:29,920
that i wasn't expecting to

4003
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:32,000
do this whole thing but you were very

4004
02:32:36,830 --> 02:32:33,520
gracious in allowing me to say it

4005
02:32:39,750 --> 02:32:36,840
so i'll send i'll send you an invoice um

4006
02:32:43,349 --> 02:32:39,760
but but i

4007
02:32:44,469 --> 02:32:43,359
saw um i have been not to get all

4008
02:32:47,590 --> 02:32:44,479
philosophical

4009
02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:47,600
on this but these are realizations

4010
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:51,200
that i slowly came to uh starting about

4011
02:32:55,990 --> 02:32:53,200
25 or 30 years ago where i

4012
02:32:57,270 --> 02:32:56,000
just put my life in check and just

4013
02:33:00,630 --> 02:32:57,280
wondered about is

4014
02:33:02,150 --> 02:33:00,640
that age right 30 that i've got maybe 30

4015
02:33:04,870 --> 02:33:02,160
good years left

4016
02:33:06,630 --> 02:33:04,880
right and i need to really make sure

4017
02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:06,640
that these are the best

4018
02:33:09,750 --> 02:33:08,880
um and and i don't want to have any

4019
02:33:12,389 --> 02:33:09,760
regrets

4020
02:33:13,270 --> 02:33:12,399
but i saw this i saw this photograph

4021
02:33:14,790 --> 02:33:13,280
richard um

4022
02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:14,800
that's a couple of years ago and it

4023
02:33:18,630 --> 02:33:16,560
affected me so much

4024
02:33:20,389 --> 02:33:18,640
that i talked about it on the air for

4025
02:33:22,870 --> 02:33:20,399
for a few months

4026
02:33:24,389 --> 02:33:22,880
but it was this image it's an art museum

4027
02:33:27,429 --> 02:33:24,399
it's like the met

4028
02:33:28,070 --> 02:33:27,439
right and in the background of some 10

4029
02:33:30,630 --> 02:33:28,080
foot by

4030
02:33:31,910 --> 02:33:30,640
15 foot renaissance painting by one of

4031
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:31,920
the masters

4032
02:33:35,830 --> 02:33:34,800
and and it's there and in front of the

4033
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:35,840
painting

4034
02:33:42,710 --> 02:33:39,040
is a bench and there's like six

4035
02:33:44,950 --> 02:33:42,720
teenage girls all sitting on their cell

4036
02:33:48,630 --> 02:33:44,960
phones

4037
02:33:51,190 --> 02:33:48,640
like this the painting is right here

4038
02:33:52,070 --> 02:33:51,200
but they're right right they're

4039
02:33:54,469 --> 02:33:52,080
scrolling through

4040
02:33:55,750 --> 02:33:54,479
oh man and i just thought that's that's

4041
02:33:59,510 --> 02:33:55,760
our era

4042
02:33:59,830 --> 02:33:59,520
right that's right it affected me man to

4043
02:34:02,710 --> 02:33:59,840
my

4044
02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:02,720
core you know why because you're seeing

4045
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:03,680
this beautiful

4046
02:34:10,389 --> 02:34:07,520
almost sacred work of art let's face it

4047
02:34:11,190 --> 02:34:10,399
this incredible expression of the human

4048
02:34:14,870 --> 02:34:11,200
spirit

4049
02:34:17,910 --> 02:34:14,880
this sublime like

4050
02:34:20,150 --> 02:34:17,920
that that a human being 500 years ago

4051
02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:20,160
sweated and like was probably painting

4052
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:22,240
that for god for all we know like

4053
02:34:26,230 --> 02:34:24,640
he's like i am pouring my heart and my

4054
02:34:29,510 --> 02:34:26,240
soul and all of my talent

4055
02:34:30,950 --> 02:34:29,520
into this expression

4056
02:34:32,950 --> 02:34:30,960
and and now 500 years later that

4057
02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:32,960
person's dead but that beautiful

4058
02:34:37,270 --> 02:34:34,000
testament there

4059
02:34:40,950 --> 02:34:37,280
and and these oblivious girls are just

4060
02:34:46,070 --> 02:34:40,960
on their phone have you had no sense

4061
02:34:49,349 --> 02:34:46,080
um have you gone up to a painting

4062
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:49,359
and just started crying yes yes yes

4063
02:34:52,710 --> 02:34:51,040
tell me about it what was the painting

4064
02:34:55,750 --> 02:34:52,720
yeah it was

4065
02:34:56,790 --> 02:34:55,760
in london i was in the london was it the

4066
02:34:58,950 --> 02:34:56,800
national

4067
02:35:00,790 --> 02:34:58,960
museum is that what it's called uh

4068
02:35:04,389 --> 02:35:00,800
there's a leonardo

4069
02:35:07,030 --> 02:35:04,399
uh painting that i had seen images of

4070
02:35:07,429 --> 02:35:07,040
and it's of a madonna with the child not

4071
02:35:10,550 --> 02:35:07,439
you know

4072
02:35:12,309 --> 02:35:10,560
marion and baby jesus uh

4073
02:35:14,469 --> 02:35:12,319
like that was a very popular theme back

4074
02:35:16,950 --> 02:35:14,479
then uh there were a lot of masters who

4075
02:35:19,990 --> 02:35:16,960
did it and leonardo did several of them

4076
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:20,000
and the one in london it i think what

4077
02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:22,000
blew me away was the size of it

4078
02:35:25,670 --> 02:35:24,479
like so you go into this separate room

4079
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:25,680
and also

4080
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:28,560
uh outside the room is like uh was

4081
02:35:33,510 --> 02:35:30,080
medieval art

4082
02:35:35,190 --> 02:35:33,520
so from an earlier period and

4083
02:35:37,190 --> 02:35:35,200
you know i mean there were there were

4084
02:35:39,110 --> 02:35:37,200
some great medieval artists actually and

4085
02:35:41,030 --> 02:35:39,120
but then you get to leonardo and like

4086
02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:41,040
this is orders of magnitude beyond

4087
02:35:46,309 --> 02:35:44,560
so it was it was that and i walked in

4088
02:35:47,990 --> 02:35:46,319
and the lighting around the painting was

4089
02:35:50,469 --> 02:35:48,000
perfect of course

4090
02:35:52,469 --> 02:35:50,479
and the painting was probably like seven

4091
02:35:56,630 --> 02:35:52,479
feet tall i don't know it was huge

4092
02:35:58,950 --> 02:35:56,640
at least it felt like it was and

4093
02:36:01,830 --> 02:35:58,960
i don't know if i cried like sobbing but

4094
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:01,840
i felt overwhelmed

4095
02:36:07,830 --> 02:36:05,200
with emotion like

4096
02:36:08,790 --> 02:36:07,840
it was one of the most it was actually

4097
02:36:10,469 --> 02:36:08,800
really one of those beautiful

4098
02:36:11,349 --> 02:36:10,479
experiences of my life to be honest with

4099
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:11,359
you

4100
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:13,760
um i ended up buying the print at the

4101
02:36:15,910 --> 02:36:14,399
museum

4102
02:36:18,309 --> 02:36:15,920
i did the same print was a little too

4103
02:36:19,750 --> 02:36:18,319
dark and didn't do justice to my

4104
02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:19,760
experience and

4105
02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:22,479
you know that's how it is but it it's

4106
02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:23,439
amazing

4107
02:36:32,150 --> 02:36:27,600
when when that happens and to think that

4108
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:32,160
uh somebody's missing a possible moment

4109
02:36:38,469 --> 02:36:35,439
that that apparently

4110
02:36:39,910 --> 02:36:38,479
the likes on their social media feed is

4111
02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:39,920
more important

4112
02:36:43,590 --> 02:36:42,240
than taking a moment to what is sitting

4113
02:36:47,510 --> 02:36:43,600
to your left

4114
02:36:50,469 --> 02:36:47,520
i i had that moment i had that moment

4115
02:36:50,950 --> 02:36:50,479
where i've had it a few times but one

4116
02:36:53,830 --> 02:36:50,960
where

4117
02:36:54,469 --> 02:36:53,840
i i was just crushed and it was claude

4118
02:36:56,230 --> 02:36:54,479
monet

4119
02:36:57,590 --> 02:36:56,240
it was here at the getty here in los

4120
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:57,600
angeles the painting

4121
02:37:01,030 --> 02:37:00,240
richard look at the camera the painting

4122
02:37:04,790 --> 02:37:01,040
was about

4123
02:37:05,110 --> 02:37:04,800
this big okay so small for people who

4124
02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:05,120
don't

4125
02:37:08,230 --> 02:37:07,760
see this yeah it's like you know uh i'm

4126
02:37:11,750 --> 02:37:08,240
guessing

4127
02:37:13,910 --> 02:37:11,760
18 by 14 inches right okay

4128
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:13,920
and uh and i'm going down and it's it's

4129
02:37:17,830 --> 02:37:16,160
it's in a long line of artwork and it's

4130
02:37:19,830 --> 02:37:17,840
there but nobody was standing there and

4131
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:19,840
i just kind of stepped up

4132
02:37:25,429 --> 02:37:21,760
and i looked at it and it was like

4133
02:37:31,429 --> 02:37:28,790
and i started crying yeah and and

4134
02:37:32,710 --> 02:37:31,439
all it was it was it was two boats one

4135
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:32,720
boat in the front and a little one in

4136
02:37:36,870 --> 02:37:34,160
the back it's like gray

4137
02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:36,880
and fogged out uh this sailboat with a

4138
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:38,960
guy in the back of the sailboat

4139
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:42,160
um and it was small and i i

4140
02:37:49,429 --> 02:37:47,280
i was crying uncontrollably

4141
02:37:51,270 --> 02:37:49,439
it was just because you you got into

4142
02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:51,280
this moment like

4143
02:37:56,309 --> 02:37:54,399
i mean is it monet's best painting

4144
02:37:59,590 --> 02:37:56,319
probably not doesn't matter

4145
02:38:02,070 --> 02:37:59,600
you you you somehow you got into this

4146
02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:02,080
i'm just gonna dare say that you got

4147
02:38:04,950 --> 02:38:03,120
into monet's

4148
02:38:06,469 --> 02:38:04,960
spirit in a sense like you you just

4149
02:38:09,990 --> 02:38:06,479
experienced

4150
02:38:13,110 --> 02:38:10,000
what he was trying to

4151
02:38:15,910 --> 02:38:13,120
to create 100 that's what it was

4152
02:38:17,510 --> 02:38:15,920
yep and so that that possibility is

4153
02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:17,520
available to us every single moment of

4154
02:38:19,830 --> 02:38:18,080
our lives

4155
02:38:21,670 --> 02:38:19,840
i feel bad for those teenage girls like

4156
02:38:23,110 --> 02:38:21,680
that you were describing i'm not angry

4157
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:23,120
with them i'm not even looking down on

4158
02:38:27,030 --> 02:38:23,600
them i

4159
02:38:28,550 --> 02:38:27,040
i feel sad for them because

4160
02:38:30,790 --> 02:38:28,560
i mean in a sense it's not their fault

4161
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:30,800
like they've been born into this society

4162
02:38:33,670 --> 02:38:32,080
and they're like

4163
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:33,680
they've there's all this pressure on

4164
02:38:38,389 --> 02:38:36,080
them to conform socially and

4165
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:38,399
like there's no there's no incentive for

4166
02:38:41,270 --> 02:38:39,280
them

4167
02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:41,280
to think intellectually or even at a

4168
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,640
deep spiritual

4169
02:38:46,389 --> 02:38:44,560
uh philosophical level like they're just

4170
02:38:49,750 --> 02:38:46,399
it's probably not there

4171
02:38:51,349 --> 02:38:49,760
and so this is what they do and like

4172
02:38:53,349 --> 02:38:51,359
some of them will get older and they

4173
02:38:55,110 --> 02:38:53,359
will realize like holy crap like i've

4174
02:38:56,710 --> 02:38:55,120
been throwing my life away

4175
02:38:58,150 --> 02:38:56,720
like they'll get some of them will get

4176
02:39:01,429 --> 02:38:58,160
to that point

4177
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:01,439
and you know hopefully um but it's very

4178
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:03,359
difficult and it's painful

4179
02:39:06,630 --> 02:39:04,960
but once we get to that point and we

4180
02:39:11,270 --> 02:39:06,640
realize like we actually

4181
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:11,280
can live we can live with our authentic

4182
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:13,520
being and our authentic self like that's

4183
02:39:17,830 --> 02:39:15,760
the most rewarding thing like

4184
02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:17,840
so you know better late than never and

4185
02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:19,439
i'm speaking for myself here

4186
02:39:22,950 --> 02:39:21,680
better late than never i i don't want to

4187
02:39:25,670 --> 02:39:22,960
waste a moment

4188
02:39:26,309 --> 02:39:25,680
you know i i just don't all i want to do

4189
02:39:28,630 --> 02:39:26,319
is

4190
02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:28,640
learn you know i just want to learn i

4191
02:39:31,349 --> 02:39:29,359
just want to learn

4192
02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:31,359
something every single day i just want

4193
02:39:35,510 --> 02:39:33,200
to expand my mind

4194
02:39:36,950 --> 02:39:35,520
that's all i want to do you know there's

4195
02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:36,960
only so many minutes left

4196
02:39:40,070 --> 02:39:38,880
i don't want to be you know going back

4197
02:39:42,710 --> 02:39:40,080
to tolstoy

4198
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:42,720
right if tolstoy knew about the internet

4199
02:39:45,030 --> 02:39:44,080
that would have been a whole different

4200
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:45,040
book

4201
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:47,040
because or no maybe it would have been

4202
02:39:52,389 --> 02:39:48,560
the same thing in that

4203
02:39:55,510 --> 02:39:52,399
i don't want to be at that point where

4204
02:39:57,910 --> 02:39:55,520
somebody says okay man tomorrow is it

4205
02:39:59,270 --> 02:39:57,920
right tomorrow's it and i don't want to

4206
02:40:01,270 --> 02:39:59,280
be sitting there going okay

4207
02:40:02,710 --> 02:40:01,280
where did i waste my time i wasted my

4208
02:40:06,070 --> 02:40:02,720
time uh

4209
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:06,080
on a social media feed i can't get those

4210
02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:09,200
years back right years

4211
02:40:12,389 --> 02:40:11,920
wasted years um how many how many times

4212
02:40:15,110 --> 02:40:12,399
was i

4213
02:40:15,910 --> 02:40:15,120
mean to somebody i can't get that back i

4214
02:40:18,870 --> 02:40:15,920
can't get that

4215
02:40:19,349 --> 02:40:18,880
back you know how how much time did i

4216
02:40:23,030 --> 02:40:19,359
spend

4217
02:40:26,469 --> 02:40:23,040
being angry thinking about

4218
02:40:27,910 --> 02:40:26,479
being angry you can't get that time back

4219
02:40:29,750 --> 02:40:27,920
it's one of the worst poisons i just

4220
02:40:32,830 --> 02:40:29,760
wrote a piece on my website on

4221
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:32,840
forgiveness and why why it's important

4222
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:35,439
and you know

4223
02:40:39,030 --> 02:40:36,720
i don't get into this whole thing here

4224
02:40:40,630 --> 02:40:39,040
because it's but basically i think

4225
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:40,640
i mean there's two reasons that come

4226
02:40:44,710 --> 02:40:42,160
right off the top of my head why why

4227
02:40:46,230 --> 02:40:44,720
forgiveness actually is so important and

4228
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:46,240
it's kind of timely now because we're in

4229
02:40:51,910 --> 02:40:48,640
a society that doesn't like to forgive

4230
02:40:53,349 --> 02:40:51,920
anything but um hey first of all

4231
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:53,359
when we're angry with someone chances

4232
02:40:56,309 --> 02:40:54,399
are we don't really understand them

4233
02:40:57,510 --> 02:40:56,319
fully anyway like let's face it

4234
02:40:59,110 --> 02:40:57,520
but the other thing is like when you

4235
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:59,120
don't forgive you're you're holding

4236
02:41:04,550 --> 02:40:59,600
anger

4237
02:41:06,309 --> 02:41:04,560
breeds resentment and that resentment

4238
02:41:09,269 --> 02:41:06,319
breeds a sense of entitlement

4239
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:09,279
and with a sense of entitlement um

4240
02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:09,760
that's

4241
02:41:13,030 --> 02:41:11,520
when we're most at danger of just doing

4242
02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:13,040
bad things

4243
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:16,399
of acting in inhumane ways and um

4244
02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:19,840
and so therefore i think like you have

4245
02:41:24,230 --> 02:41:21,040
to forge even

4246
02:41:25,349 --> 02:41:24,240
for people who do awful things to you to

4247
02:41:29,429 --> 02:41:25,359
you

4248
02:41:31,750 --> 02:41:29,439
with them

4249
02:41:34,309 --> 02:41:31,760
it's in your best interest to forgive

4250
02:41:37,110 --> 02:41:34,319
them so that you can move on

4251
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:37,120
and that's hard you know we think how

4252
02:41:39,349 --> 02:41:37,680
dare

4253
02:41:41,190 --> 02:41:39,359
he's the one who screwed me over he

4254
02:41:44,150 --> 02:41:41,200
should be asking for

4255
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:44,160
my forgiveness before i do anything but

4256
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:44,640
no

4257
02:41:52,550 --> 02:41:50,080
lesson right but

4258
02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:52,560
and i'm not saying i figured it out like

4259
02:41:59,269 --> 02:41:55,200
i still like i get angry i get resentful

4260
02:42:03,030 --> 02:41:59,279
um but that's really the thing like we

4261
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:03,040
ha hanging on to anger that's the worst

4262
02:42:09,750 --> 02:42:06,640
it's a waste of time it's a waste

4263
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:09,760
of time waste of time

4264
02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:12,960
uh and i don't know how

4265
02:42:17,510 --> 02:42:16,160
uh i started to come to to this this

4266
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:17,520
thought pattern because i didn't i

4267
02:42:22,469 --> 02:42:18,240
didn't

4268
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:22,479
bunch of books on philosophy

4269
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:24,560
and trying to get myself grounded

4270
02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:25,520
enlightened

4271
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:29,359
charmed uh uh 1970

4272
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:32,800
pyramids over my waterbed with crystals

4273
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:35,920
no i i didn't go i didn't i didn't go

4274
02:42:41,190 --> 02:42:37,359
through any of that

4275
02:42:44,309 --> 02:42:41,200
um in self-discovery but

4276
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:44,319
but i i stumbled upon this myself with

4277
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:46,720
some of the mistakes and things and

4278
02:42:50,710 --> 02:42:48,000
experiences

4279
02:42:52,469 --> 02:42:50,720
that i've had growing up and that i

4280
02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:52,479
don't want i don't want to relive those

4281
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:53,120
things

4282
02:42:59,429 --> 02:42:56,240
certainly

4283
02:43:00,950 --> 02:42:59,439
uh wasted a lot of time uh having fun

4284
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:00,960
which i i i won't

4285
02:43:05,429 --> 02:43:03,520
trade that in but it's not wasting right

4286
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:05,439
no it's not no i learned a lot

4287
02:43:09,910 --> 02:43:08,399
but yeah but i i just wish that i would

4288
02:43:13,269 --> 02:43:09,920
have spent more time

4289
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:13,279
in school and and taking school

4290
02:43:18,550 --> 02:43:16,240
more serious than i did and and i'm

4291
02:43:20,870 --> 02:43:18,560
serious if i won the lottery today

4292
02:43:22,790 --> 02:43:20,880
i would you know what i would do is i

4293
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:22,800
would i would pick a good spot in the

4294
02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:23,840
country

4295
02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:26,960
a good university so maybe it would be

4296
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:29,680
say in colorado and i would build the

4297
02:43:35,030 --> 02:43:31,680
jimmy church library

4298
02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:35,040
and i would make sure that i had

4299
02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:38,160
the best uh attention

4300
02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:40,960
and and i would just rock it i would

4301
02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:42,399
rock it i love it

4302
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:44,640
i i would i would fabulous i would take

4303
02:43:47,830 --> 02:43:45,520
this now

4304
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:47,840
um uh people say that they want to

4305
02:43:50,469 --> 02:43:49,760
travel or they would do this or what

4306
02:43:53,830 --> 02:43:50,479
whatever

4307
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:53,840
okay but i would i would

4308
02:43:57,349 --> 02:43:56,720
uh take the time uh which i don't have

4309
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:57,359
now

4310
02:44:01,190 --> 02:43:59,279
but i do want to go to egypt i want to

4311
02:44:02,830 --> 02:44:01,200
go to greece i want to go to armenia i

4312
02:44:04,389 --> 02:44:02,840
want to go to china i want to go to

4313
02:44:07,510 --> 02:44:04,399
russia um

4314
02:44:11,110 --> 02:44:07,520
i i want to do you know throughout

4315
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:11,120
uh central uh and and south america

4316
02:44:16,070 --> 02:44:14,960
these crazy uh sites historically that

4317
02:44:18,469 --> 02:44:16,080
mean so much

4318
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:18,479
right you know and try to get to the

4319
02:44:23,590 --> 02:44:20,720
lasko caves in france you know

4320
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:23,600
you know go do these things into those i

4321
02:44:27,990 --> 02:44:25,359
would boy but that would be amazing

4322
02:44:29,670 --> 02:44:28,000
exactly and and try to knock some of

4323
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:29,680
this stuff out that's what i would

4324
02:44:34,630 --> 02:44:30,960
honestly do

4325
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:37,670
yeah and um every moment we have is a

4326
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:38,080
gift

4327
02:44:41,510 --> 02:44:40,000
that's the truth and so the question we

4328
02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:41,520
can ask ourselves is what are we doing

4329
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:42,720
with this moment because you don't have

4330
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:43,439
the past

4331
02:44:46,790 --> 02:44:44,800
that's gone and you don't have the

4332
02:44:49,030 --> 02:44:46,800
future the only thing that we have

4333
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:49,040
literally is right this moment and so

4334
02:44:52,150 --> 02:44:50,640
what are we doing with it

4335
02:44:54,230 --> 02:44:52,160
are we tripping out into a little

4336
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:54,240
fantasy land and like spinning out into

4337
02:44:56,950 --> 02:44:54,960
whatever

4338
02:44:58,710 --> 02:44:56,960
our little mental universe is or are we

4339
02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:58,720
actually experiencing

4340
02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:01,760
this incredible miracle of reality which

4341
02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:04,000
is all around us like

4342
02:45:08,870 --> 02:45:07,120
and just how awake are we and you know

4343
02:45:10,630 --> 02:45:08,880
none of us are awake all the time fully

4344
02:45:13,110 --> 02:45:10,640
i mean but

4345
02:45:14,710 --> 02:45:13,120
you know we can try all right and be

4346
02:45:17,269 --> 02:45:14,720
grateful sean carroll

4347
02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:17,279
in his uh latest book the physicist sean

4348
02:45:21,190 --> 02:45:18,479
carroll says

4349
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:21,200
one thing he says a lot but there's this

4350
02:45:25,990 --> 02:45:23,680
one thing that just

4351
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:26,000
you know when you hear certain things

4352
02:45:29,830 --> 02:45:27,359
richard you get

4353
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:29,840
you get poisoned in that you can't get

4354
02:45:33,030 --> 02:45:31,520
it out of you it messes you up

4355
02:45:34,550 --> 02:45:33,040
you know just message you and he said

4356
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:34,560
this one thing he goes look

4357
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:37,439
we have the past present and future and

4358
02:45:41,990 --> 02:45:38,880
the past

4359
02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:42,000
that is one second ago you remember it

4360
02:45:50,870 --> 02:45:49,110
man that's like the heavy why do you

4361
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:50,880
gotta do that to me

4362
02:45:56,740 --> 02:45:54,720
you know it's one second you can still

4363
02:45:58,230 --> 02:45:56,750
see it he's messing with you man

4364
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:58,240
[Laughter]

4365
02:46:03,269 --> 02:46:01,439
and it's so true you know

4366
02:46:04,550 --> 02:46:03,279
no matter what all the power all the

4367
02:46:07,510 --> 02:46:04,560
money in the world

4368
02:46:09,830 --> 02:46:07,520
that that fleeting moment because it's

4369
02:46:11,349 --> 02:46:09,840
always moving forward it's always moving

4370
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:11,359
forward you don't know the future it's

4371
02:46:15,349 --> 02:46:12,560
right there

4372
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:15,359
you have the present the past which is a

4373
02:46:19,269 --> 02:46:16,720
second old

4374
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:19,279
you can't get it back man i love the

4375
02:46:21,429 --> 02:46:20,479
fact that we've got these little

4376
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:21,439
mysterious

4377
02:46:27,190 --> 02:46:24,960
you know frustrations uh

4378
02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:27,200
you know you can imagine like if there

4379
02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:28,800
if there are other

4380
02:46:32,309 --> 02:46:31,040
entities in this universe some of whom

4381
02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:32,319
are hanging out with us

4382
02:46:35,910 --> 02:46:33,920
here right here on earth who might be

4383
02:46:37,510 --> 02:46:35,920
able to perceive space and time

4384
02:46:39,349 --> 02:46:37,520
differently than we do and they may not

4385
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:39,359
have that confusion

4386
02:46:44,070 --> 02:46:42,000
or that sense that we do but i like what

4387
02:46:47,030 --> 02:46:44,080
we have willie strieber once wrote a

4388
02:46:50,309 --> 02:46:47,040
piece many years ago about that and his

4389
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:50,319
take on this was that these beings

4390
02:46:53,750 --> 02:46:52,319
they don't experience time the way we do

4391
02:46:56,070 --> 02:46:53,760
so they

4392
02:46:57,190 --> 02:46:56,080
are outside of time and it's like they

4393
02:46:59,190 --> 02:46:57,200
know things

4394
02:47:01,190 --> 02:46:59,200
they know everything right in a sense

4395
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:01,200
and in his opinion

4396
02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:03,680
that's almost boring for them and they

4397
02:47:08,710 --> 02:47:05,600
actually vicariously like

4398
02:47:11,510 --> 02:47:08,720
what we're like we experience this

4399
02:47:13,349 --> 02:47:11,520
unknowingness this flow of time this

4400
02:47:14,630 --> 02:47:13,359
mystery the surprise of one moment to

4401
02:47:16,870 --> 02:47:14,640
the next

4402
02:47:19,030 --> 02:47:16,880
um this this was his opinion he wrote

4403
02:47:21,349 --> 02:47:19,040
this over a decade ago

4404
02:47:22,870 --> 02:47:21,359
um this is kind of an interesting thing

4405
02:47:24,950 --> 02:47:22,880
like we

4406
02:47:26,630 --> 02:47:24,960
you know we we can't we don't know what

4407
02:47:29,830 --> 02:47:26,640
the future is we moment is

4408
02:47:31,510 --> 02:47:29,840
a new surprise for us and honestly like

4409
02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:31,520
that's great

4410
02:47:34,870 --> 02:47:33,359
i i wouldn't want it any other way i

4411
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:34,880
wouldn't want to give up this

4412
02:47:39,429 --> 02:47:37,680
humanity for some super intelligent

4413
02:47:42,389 --> 02:47:39,439
knowledge of space and time sorry

4414
02:47:43,670 --> 02:47:42,399
i'm quite happy with the you know

4415
02:47:46,469 --> 02:47:43,680
permutation i got

4416
02:47:46,870 --> 02:47:46,479
yeah well you know one lap uh around the

4417
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:46,880
sun

4418
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:49,920
is one year right so we base everything

4419
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:52,720
on that once you're out there in space

4420
02:47:55,990 --> 02:47:53,359
and you're not

4421
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:56,000
on this beautiful blue planet doing that

4422
02:48:00,630 --> 02:47:57,279
orbit

4423
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:00,640
that experience is gone linear time is

4424
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,640
gone it's only there if you have a watch

4425
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:06,720
well yeah you wouldn't know you don't

4426
02:48:09,269 --> 02:48:08,319
you're still experiencing one moment to

4427
02:48:11,269 --> 02:48:09,279
the next though

4428
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:11,279
you you are experiencing one moment to

4429
02:48:15,030 --> 02:48:12,960
the next but what about one day to the

4430
02:48:17,110 --> 02:48:15,040
next in your sleep cycles and everything

4431
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:17,120
that is thrown off

4432
02:48:23,190 --> 02:48:20,880
it's now just one long moment

4433
02:48:25,030 --> 02:48:23,200
isn't it isn't it just one long

4434
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:25,040
experience at that point i wonder what

4435
02:48:28,309 --> 02:48:26,240
that would be like

4436
02:48:30,150 --> 02:48:28,319
we need to smoke some weed one day

4437
02:48:33,429 --> 02:48:30,160
richard and discuss this

4438
02:48:35,510 --> 02:48:33,439
further i don't smoke weed but

4439
02:48:38,309 --> 02:48:35,520
yeah well you would never do that jimmy

4440
02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:38,319
oh richard thank you so much

4441
02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:41,200
but i will do my weed uh you will you

4442
02:48:44,469 --> 02:48:41,439
know

4443
02:48:46,150 --> 02:48:44,479
i i haven't smoked weed in 20 years oh

4444
02:48:50,389 --> 02:48:46,160
well good for you yeah 20 years i

4445
02:48:53,510 --> 02:48:50,399
i i do edibles like maybe once a year

4446
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:53,520
uh there's too strong well i i don't

4447
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:54,880
want to say like i smoke weed all the

4448
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:55,840
time i don't

4449
02:49:02,469 --> 02:48:59,200
but no i think it's um you know with

4450
02:49:03,590 --> 02:49:02,479
in the proper usage i love weed in my

4451
02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:03,600
opinion is it's a

4452
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:05,200
it can be a good thing don't become a

4453
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:07,040
pothead people listening like they're

4454
02:49:10,950 --> 02:49:08,560
i got friends and they are definitely

4455
02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:10,960
potheads and that ain't good

4456
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:13,840
see check this out look at the camera

4457
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:15,600
see that tattoo

4458
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:17,920
uh i'm trying to what is that saying

4459
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:19,600
that what is that

4460
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:25,510
i've smoked i've smoked my share of weed

4461
02:49:27,830 --> 02:49:26,000
yes

4462
02:49:29,110 --> 02:49:27,840
i've smoked my share of wheat i wear it

4463
02:49:31,750 --> 02:49:29,120
on my sleeve

4464
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:31,760
indeed all right you do you literally

4465
02:49:35,510 --> 02:49:32,560
wear it on your

4466
02:49:36,630 --> 02:49:35,520
i do i do okay uh richard we're out of

4467
02:49:39,590 --> 02:49:36,640
time we just went

4468
02:49:40,790 --> 02:49:39,600
we just went i pulled a pole thank tracy

4469
02:49:44,870 --> 02:49:40,800
just really quick

4470
02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:44,880
man when can we expect volume three

4471
02:49:50,950 --> 02:49:48,560
well i don't i can i actually say

4472
02:49:52,830 --> 02:49:50,960
now that i'm genuinely like in the in

4473
02:49:55,750 --> 02:49:52,840
the thick of it

4474
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:55,760
um not less than a year but not more

4475
02:50:01,590 --> 02:49:57,120
than two

4476
02:50:04,550 --> 02:50:01,600
so yeah 2022 sounds about right to me

4477
02:50:05,750 --> 02:50:04,560
i think that's actually achievable that

4478
02:50:08,389 --> 02:50:05,760
ain't right

4479
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:08,399
what can i do to motivate you i'm

4480
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:09,760
motivated

4481
02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:11,600
you can't motivate me anymore it has

4482
02:50:13,429 --> 02:50:12,960
nothing to do with motivation at this

4483
02:50:16,469 --> 02:50:13,439
point

4484
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:16,479
it's it's just work that's amazing i i

4485
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:19,120
can't wait for it my friend

4486
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:21,520
thank you so much and and again give our

4487
02:50:25,110 --> 02:50:22,720
best to tracy

4488
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:25,120
and we'll do this again as soon as we

4489
02:50:29,990 --> 02:50:26,399
can thank you so much

4490
02:50:33,030 --> 02:50:31,670
the absolute best to get a little

4491
02:50:34,870 --> 02:50:33,040
unhinged tonight

4492
02:50:36,230 --> 02:50:34,880
even more than usual i'll send you the

4493
02:50:39,110 --> 02:50:36,240
file and you can

4494
02:50:39,349 --> 02:50:39,120
share it with all of the dolonites thank

4495
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:39,359
you

4496
02:50:43,190 --> 02:50:41,920
is that what they're called will this be

4497
02:50:45,590 --> 02:50:43,200
on uh on the

4498
02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:45,600
tube of you it'll be there but i'll send

4499
02:50:49,269 --> 02:50:47,120
you a clean file

4500
02:50:50,469 --> 02:50:49,279
thank you i said i said are they called

4501
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:50,479
the dolo knights what

4502
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:53,920
what are your they some of them yes yes

4503
02:50:57,750 --> 02:50:56,160
i i like that and when i do live stream

4504
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:57,760
someone in the chat will say dolanites

4505
02:51:01,349 --> 02:50:58,640
assemble

4506
02:51:01,990 --> 02:51:01,359
dolonites i just thought of that there

4507
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:02,000
you go

4508
02:51:05,990 --> 02:51:03,600
richard have a great night man thank you

4509
02:51:09,030 --> 02:51:06,000
so much good night

4510
02:51:11,269 --> 02:51:09,040
richard bleep and dolan that was perfect

4511
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:11,279
i blew out commercials i did everything

4512
02:51:16,389 --> 02:51:13,200
i wasn't supposed to do tonight

4513
02:51:18,389 --> 02:51:16,399
for this show peyton black's executive

4514
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:18,399
producer is rita kamarian show is

4515
02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:20,080
produced by hill j paul renee dennis and

4516
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:20,800
kevin

4517
02:51:24,309 --> 02:51:23,120
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

4518
02:51:26,230 --> 02:51:24,319
and mark t kovar

4519
02:51:27,670 --> 02:51:26,240
webmaster is drew the geek music doug

4520
02:51:30,870 --> 02:51:27,680
aldridge intro

4521
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:30,880
spaceboy spaceboymusic.com payton black

4522
02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:32,880
is produced by kjcr for the game changer

4523
02:51:37,110 --> 02:51:35,600
network and syndication is k-g-r-a

4524
02:51:39,349 --> 02:51:37,120
the planet this broadcast owned

4525
02:51:40,550 --> 02:51:39,359
copyrighted 2021 by fade to black and

4526
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:40,560
the game changer network

4527
02:51:44,630 --> 02:51:43,120
inc it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4528
02:51:45,349 --> 02:51:44,640
copied or used anywhere in the known

4529
02:51:46,950 --> 02:51:45,359
universe

4530
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:46,960
without written permission from paid to

4531
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:48,640
black of the game changing network

4532
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:50,319
i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

4533
02:51:57,110 --> 02:51:54,000
night is our ama

4534
02:52:03,950 --> 02:51:57,120
until then everybody be safe